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Old 02-11-2010, 04:58 AM
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While watching at one point Daltry's lips seemed to be a little out of sync with the audio. Was there a audio delay or were they lip-syncing?
It is not that unusual for the audio to be slightly out of snych with the video on a live performance.

I don't think there is any chance they were lip-synching. I don't think a network would allow lip-synching at an event like the Superbowl. Lip-synching is rarely done any more. It is considered a big no-no.

The last person that was caught lip-synching was Ashlee Simpson on Saturday Night Live and she got blasted for it. I think she claimed she had a cold or laryngitis or something like that. That was her excuse. She got crucified in the media. Lip-snyching is not considered acceptable nowadays and it is totally frowned upon.

There is no way The Who was lip-synching. I would lay 20-1 odds against it.

By the way, if you watch the performance again on youtube it is perfect. The audio is perfectly in synch with the video.

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Old 02-11-2010, 05:27 AM
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It is not that unusual for the audio to be slightly out of snych with the video on a live performance.

I don't think there is any chance they were lip-synching. I don't think a network would allow lip-synching at an event like the Superbowl. Lip-synching is rarely done any more. It is considered a big no-no.

The last person that was caught lip-synching was Ashlee Simpson on Saturday Night Live and she got blasted for it. I think she claimed she had a cold or laryngitis or something like that. That was her excuse. She got crucified in the media. Lip-snyching is not considered acceptable nowadays and it is totally frowned upon.

There is no way The Who was lip-synching. I would lay 20-1 odds against it.

By the way, if you watch the performance again on youtube it is perfect. The audio is perfectly in synch with the video.
I actually just found a review of The Who's half-time show in the Chicago Tribune. It specifically says they "weren't lip-synching".

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:09 AM
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It is not that unusual for the audio to be slightly out of snych with the video on a live performance.

I don't think there is any chance they were lip-synching. I don't think a network would allow lip-synching at an event like the Superbowl. Lip-synching is rarely done any more. It is considered a big no-no.

The last person that was caught lip-synching was Ashlee Simpson on Saturday Night Live and she got blasted for it. I think she claimed she had a cold or laryngitis or something like that. That was her excuse. She got crucified in the media. Lip-snyching is not considered acceptable nowadays and it is totally frowned upon.

There is no way The Who was lip-synching. I would lay 20-1 odds against it.

By the way, if you watch the performance again on youtube it is perfect. The audio is perfectly in synch with the video.

they were lip synching. it was glaringly obvious because he hesitated on one word, which came through on audio, but you could most certainly see he didn't say it on the screen. it was at the end of one of the songsl ines it wasn't a case of being 'off'. he was on til that one word.
as to why they do it, it's so there are no glitches in the performance. we've all seen times where bands flub a song. the anthem is pre-recorded, and so is half time.
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http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dai...-who-then-who/

Sure, Daltrey’s lip-synching was a bit of a blow to the gut — I mean, this was the band who always thrived on live performance.

However, I have to imagine the NFL is rather cautious these days about what they’ll allow and what they’ll forbid. I suppose lip-synching is a guarantee of a smooth performance with no flubbed lines, vocal imperfections or, more realistically, the possibility of a subliminally uttered message during the world’s most viewed sporting event.


regardless of the article, i know what i saw, which is what my husband and son saw.
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Sure, Daltrey’s lip-synching was a bit of a blow to the gut — I mean, this was the band who always thrived on live performance.

However, I have to imagine the NFL is rather cautious these days about what they’ll allow and what they’ll forbid. I suppose lip-synching is a guarantee of a smooth performance with no flubbed lines, vocal imperfections or, more realistically, the possibility of a subliminally uttered message during the world’s most viewed sporting event.


regardless of the article, i know what i saw, which is what my husband and son saw.
I watched it too and I completely disagree with you.
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I watched it too and I completely disagree with you.
your prerogative. all i know is tony was watching it, saw the mistake, rewound it so i could see and it was very clear to us both.
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your prerogative. all i know is tony was watching it, saw the mistake, rewound it so i could see and it was very clear to us both.
What people have to understand is that this isnt a concert where a missed note or lyric or stumble is washed over in the course of the 1 to 2 hour performance and is only seen by less than a 100k people half of which are drunk and incoherent and don't care.

This is a "live" performance in front of oh...a BILLION PEOPLE. This is the showcase event of the most marketed sport in the US. This is 10 minutes, three songs coreographed with a lightshow being performed by 65 yr old men. Do you really think the NFL is going to take that chance???? Would any sane human?

There are parts to the performance that are "live". They dub those in. Those aren't holographic images out there and these guys really did lay down the track. They just didnt sing it while we were watching...except for a few small parts.
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anyone willingly playing shortened versions of their songs to fit into a set truncated for commercial breaks deserves all the criticism possible.

i'm not a prince fan and thought his set was amazing. i am a springsteen fan and thought he delivered.

who's next came out when i was 15 and was an album i thought was transformative.

and now i've seen the fat elvis wearing a white jumpsuit version.

thanks for that.

hope you enjoyed that career diminishing moment. dead on the toilet is just around the corner.
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they were lip synching. it was glaringly obvious because he hesitated on one word, which came through on audio, but you could most certainly see he didn't say it on the screen. it was at the end of one of the songsl ines it wasn't a case of being 'off'. he was on til that one word.
as to why they do it, it's so there are no glitches in the performance. we've all seen times where bands flub a song. the anthem is pre-recorded, and so is half time.
there is no way the anthem was pre-recorded, Carrie Underwood was WAY off key. In fact the Who were better than Underwoods anthem easily.
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there is no way the anthem was pre-recorded, Carrie Underwood was WAY off key. In fact the Who were better than Underwoods anthem easily.

didn't catch it, we had the tv elsewhere. but generally, it's pre-recorded so there are no missed lines. i remember when whitney houston sang it and everyone said they loved it-then they found out it was taped ahead.
it's no big deal to me if they do that, i expect in general that shows are taped. how else could some of the performers do so much dancing, etc, without getting out of breath?
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didn't catch it, we had the tv elsewhere. but generally, it's pre-recorded so there are no missed lines. i remember when whitney houston sang it and everyone said they loved it-then they found out it was taped ahead.
it's no big deal to me if they do that, i expect in general that shows are taped. how else could some of the performers do so much dancing, etc, without getting out of breath?
lots of exercise!! for the money they make they should be able to do it!
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lots of exercise!! for the money they make they should be able to do it!
lol
yeah, right. they'd be out of breath after all those dance moves, regardless of how in shape they are. they're not just singers, but entertainers. so, they put on a hell of a show, but no way it's not lip syncing. you guys remember ashley simpson on snl, right?
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yeah, right. they'd be out of breath after all those dance moves, regardless of how in shape they are. they're not just singers, but entertainers. so, they put on a hell of a show, but no way it's not lip syncing. you guys remember ashley simpson on snl, right?

i know it is lip syncing.. but I dont go see those types of performers.

Rock Bands are up there jammin and dancing and drinking and still singing with their own voices!

I wouldnt pay more than $5 to see a pop star lip sync and dance in slutty outfits.. would rather spend the money at a strip club if I'm going to pay to see ho's dance!
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didn't catch it, we had the tv elsewhere. but generally, it's pre-recorded so there are no missed lines. i remember when whitney houston sang it and everyone said they loved it-then they found out it was taped ahead.
it's no big deal to me if they do that, i expect in general that shows are taped. how else could some of the performers do so much dancing, etc, without getting out of breath?
They do it all the time. They record the track first with pop in moments to go live. Some are just better with it than others. Why is this a surprise to some?
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They do it all the time. They record the track first with pop in moments to go live. Some are just better with it than others. Why is this a surprise to some?

i don't know.
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there is no way the anthem was pre-recorded, Carrie Underwood was WAY off key. In fact the Who were better than Underwoods anthem easily.
In Queen latifah's, it sounded like the voice dub got delayed a little in the beginning.
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In Queen latifah's, it sounded like the voice dub got delayed a little in the beginning.
she was great.. even if recorded!! I just thought Underwood missed like 4 or 5 notes bad so I dont see how they would have used a poor recording.
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there is no way the anthem was pre-recorded, Carrie Underwood was WAY off key. In fact the Who were better than Underwoods anthem easily.
Totally agree they were better than Carrie.
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