2/12-14: Derby Future Wager - Pool 1

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dublin might turn out ok, Lets see what Wayne does with this one.

he was pretty bad his last 2. i think hes a closing sprinter that wont stretch out.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

he was pretty bad his last 2. i think hes a closing sprinter that wont stretch out.

Well if thats true, then he will most likely be ruined, cause last summer Wayne said hes the best horse in the barn and hes best derby chance in years... and this was before the maiden breaker, after his poor Churchill effort.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Well if thats true, then he will most likely be ruined, cause last summer Wayne said hes the best horse in the barn and hes best derby chance in years... and this was before the maiden breaker, after his poor Churchill effort.

dont believe everything trainers say

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

dont believe everything trainers say

Kind of hard not to beleive him, considering 3 days after I was told this he crushed a decent maiden group then won the Grade 1.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Kind of hard not to beleive him, considering 3 days after I was told this he crushed a decent maiden group then won the Grade 1.

he tripped out in the maiden race. and he ran well in the hopeful, but that race has kind of turned out to be a dud. he has a chance to be an okay sprinter if he hasnt been ruined.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

he was pretty bad his last 2. i think hes a closing sprinter that wont stretch out.

Or he was rushed as a two year old and shouldn't have ran at Churchill in November, finally got a break, and probably show the same pattern this year, win one or two races early and then go off at 14/1 in the Derby, and run 15th

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Scav

Or he was rushed as a two year old and shouldn't have ran at Churchill in November, finally got a break, and probably show the same pattern this year, win one or two races early and then go off at 14/1 in the Derby, and run 15th

i agree he was rushed. if he has anything left we will see it in his 1st start back.

how far do you think he wants to go though?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

i agree he was rushed. if he has anything left we will see it in his 1st start back.

how far do you think he wants to go though?

I have no idea, I deleted him from my mind after Lukas put him through the grinder.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Scav

I have no idea, I deleted him from my mind after Lukas put him through the grinder.

if you look at his pps its not the usual rush though. his races were well spaced, but he never should have run at churchill.

his dam was pure sprinter and she has thrown nothing but sprinters.

[lemoncrush]

Stay Put is a horse that could offer some value.

Should turn up in the Risen Star next weekend, and I assume will be totally ignored in the future wager pool. If he's 75-1 or more, you could do worse.

Without a horse that has even shown a glimmer of greatness yet, I imagine the field will be pounded this weekend.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

if you look at his pps its not the usual rush though. his races were well spaced, but he never should have run at churchill.

his dam was pure sprinter and she has thrown nothing but sprinters.

Didn't he have some surgery after the Churchhill race to fix a breathing problem? He is a big horse and has been training pretty good. He may be just a sprinter but I am curious to see how he comes back on Monday especially if he has some of his Daddy's will in him.

[Dunbar]

Betting has begun. Live odds are at:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/future-wager/odds

They are showing the same "Pool Total" for the win odds and the exacta odds. Pretty lame.

--Dunbar