85 in a 50!!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Guess he was just TOO FAST. (Figures don't lie).

Should we suppose that Contessa never sent him around a turn in workouts?

Sucks, cause NYRA so desperately needed a FAST SUPERSTAR.

What makes you think he isnt the the most likely winner of the Gotham? the horse didnt look hurt, he blew the turn and the jock pulled him up.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

No "bridge jumpers" though

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What makes you think he isnt the the most likely winner of the Gotham? the horse didnt look hurt, he blew the turn and the jock pulled him up.

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

I didnt see him jump over the rails but assuming he is OK physically?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I didnt see him jump over the rails but assuming he is OK physically?

They showed him being cooled off and he looked fine.

It was pretty obvious he went mental. Unless you bet him, I guess.

This thread has it all except...

I had the 3. LOL

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I didnt see him jump over the rails but assuming he is OK physically?

Even if he didn't jump over the rails, is he really a shoe-in to win the Gotham, over the same surface and distance?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Even if he didn't jump over the rails, is he really a shoe-in to win the Gotham, over the same surface and distance?

He handled the surface fine when he ran a 105BSF? The horse bugged out and needs Ramon IF he is physically OK and trains on OK he is the FAV and most likely winner IF he goes in the Gotham

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by freddymo

He handled the surface fine when he ran a 105BSF? The horse bugged out and needs Ramon IF he is physically OK and trains on OK he is the FAV and most likely winner IF he goes in the Gotham

Contessa was just on HRTV and thinks it was an equipment problem but wants to talk to Chavez. I'd say this is the last time Chavez is on the horse.

NT

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Contessa was just on HRTV and thinks it was an equipment problem but wants to talk to Chavez. I'd say this is the last time Chavez is on the horse.

NT

Chavez did nothing wrong, he had to bail.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

He handled the surface fine when he ran a 105BSF? The horse bugged out and needs Ramon IF he is physically OK and trains on OK he is the FAV and most likely winner IF he goes in the Gotham

When I said "same surface and distance" I meant "the same conditions as today's race". I didn't mean it as 2 separate strikes against him.

I was basically poking fun at your unfortunate wording ("he blew the turn and the jock pulled him up"--as though it was no big deal) immediately after touting him as the Gotham winner.

Nonetheless, I'd still argue with you even if you had merely said the race was a "throwout". This was not a stumbled start, slipped saddle, broken rein, etc.

If I had to take a guess, I'd suggest that the horse was very rank and resented any sort of restraint from Chavez, causing him to bolt. That spells one thing in my mind..."runoff".

And while his trainer may be able to get him to navigate the turn next time out, there's still undiscovered country afterward in terms of the route of ground. If he is truly a "runoff" then lots of luck keeping up a breakneck pace around two turns.

His best chance would be to show up in a first condition, but even a drop in class isn't always good insurance to get a sprinter to stretch out, especially a rank one. Witness Zensational's pathetic attempt last year.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

When I said "same surface and distance" I meant "the same conditions as today's race". I didn't mean it as 2 separate strikes against him.

I was basically poking fun at your unfortunate wording ("he blew the turn and the jock pulled him up"--as though it was no big deal) immediately after touting him as the Gotham winner.

Nonetheless, I'd still argue with you even if you had merely said the race was a "throwout". This was not a stumbled start, slipped saddle, broken rein, etc.

If I had to take a guess, I'd suggest that the horse was very rank and resented any sort of restraint from Chavez, causing him to bolt. That spells one thing in my mind..."runoff".

And while his trainer may be able to get him to navigate the turn next time out, there's still undiscovered country afterward in terms of the route of ground. If he is truly a "runoff" then lots of luck keeping up a breakneck pace around two turns.

His best chance would be to show up in a first condition, but even a drop in class isn't always good insurance to get a sprinter to stretch out, especially a rank one. Witness Zensational's pathetic attempt last year.

Maybe? Maybe he just needs some time in the morning. They could have sold him and didnt so Contessa must THINK(whatever that is worth) that he will be ok around 2 turns?