Rachel works!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Aside form the 2YOs, I'm thinking most recent 3YO fily champions (Proud Spell, Rags to Riches, Wait a While, Smuggler) and an older mare such as Ginger Punch. Maybe some of these weren't "great" to begin with, but none raced at the same level as they had in their championship season. Even Ashado, who you mentioned, was better at 3 than she was at 4.

Wait a While ran real well for a couple of years. Rags to Riches got hurt & didnt race at 4.. dont remember completely about Proud Spell and Smuggler.. but didnt they get hurt also? Ginger Punch was incredibly slow and overrated..

I think in general, good sound horses improve from year 3 to 4. Though she was so good at 3 it may not be possible for her to improve much.. She had enough time off after the Woodward where that brutal race for her shouldnt affect her.

We'll see but i expect her to not only race 5-7 times this year but to do very well again.

[Smooth Operator]

You got it all wrong, scat daddy … Z is coming after Lucky Alexander this season.



The exposure of Lucky will be a glorious thing to behold…

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

You got it all wrong, scat daddy … Z is coming after Lucky Alexander this season.



The exposure of Lucky will be a glorious thing to behold…

After an extensive study of message board posting, I have determined that the more a poster repeats the same post the less he/she has to say.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

After an extensive study of message board posting, I have determined that the more a poster repeats the same post the less he/she has to say.

The Serling principle?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The Serling principle?

I've made a very extensive study......proving even further how little I value my time.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I've made a very extensive study......proving even further how little I value my time.

Told myself the same thing. It was actually a New Year's resolution that's quickly going awry.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

You got it all wrong, scat daddy … Z is coming after Lucky Alexander this season.



The exposure of Lucky will be a glorious thing to behold…

Lookin at Lucky?

[Smooth Operator]

Very true, Throat … and I didn't have to do an "extensive study" … just looked over a few "dellinger63" and "Nascar1966" posts on the Politics board … lol



Z ... nuff said

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Wait a While ran real well for a couple of years. Rags to Riches got hurt & didnt race at 4.. dont remember completely about Proud Spell and Smuggler.. but didnt they get hurt also? Ginger Punch was incredibly slow and overrated..

Wait a While was still awesome at 4 and 5 and Ginger Punch continued being her slow self after her Eclipse. All Ashado did was win three more G1's at 4 and run third behind a runaway winner in the Distaff. I don't see a precedent for Rachel's regression if she's healthy.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Wait a While was still awesome at 4 and 5 and Ginger Punch continued being her slow self after her Eclipse. All Ashado did was win three more G1's at 4 and run third behind a runaway winner in the Distaff. I don't see a precedent for Rachel's regression if she's healthy.

Wait a While was awesome? When? She was decent and a product of her connections.. She was a Group 2 (europe) animal with a Clen drip.. Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

She would be 1 to 5 in a mythical match race with Ginger Punch.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

She would be 1 to 5 in a mythical match race with Ginger Punch.

You think? Why another perfect trip? Ginger Punch is an easy mare to knock and nobody liked her because she was slow for the level of success she achieved winning races. Neither were "all that' unless you owned them or trained them.

[cmorioles]

Both got perfect trips many times, but Ashado was faster.

[slotdirt]

Ashado lost to Silmaril. That is all.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

She would be 1 to 5 in a mythical match race with Ginger Punch.

Hey, Holy Bull was a 1/5 favorite against Cigar and others in the Donn Handicap - and look what happened. Cigar made him suffer a breakdown after just a few furlongs.

Yours Truly,
Valuist from Pace Advantage

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Hey, Holy Bull was a 1/5 favorite against Cigar and others in the Donn Handicap - and look what happened. Cigar made him suffer a breakdown after just a few furlongs.

Yours Truly,
Valuist from Pace Advantage

Didn't Thunder Gulch and Smart Strike also sustain career-ending injuries while racing against Cigar?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Didn't Thunder Gulch and Smart Strike also sustain career-ending injuries while racing against Cigar?

No

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by freddymo
Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

wonder lady ann l..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

Originally Posted by freddymo
Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

wonder lady ann l..

She never won an Eclipse.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Wait a While was awesome? When? She was decent and a product of her connections.. She was a Group 2 (europe) animal with a Clen drip.. Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

Way to read. I said she didn't seriously regress after three. Her fastest race was her '07 Ballston Spa if I'm not mistaken.