Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-01-2010, 11:31 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles
The 108 for This One's for Phil was boosted about 5 by the Beyer boys for some reason.
Is boasting a fig from 103 to 108 the same as boasting it for 60 to 65.. when you boast from 103 to 108 its about a 5% inflation but 9% in the other example.. Is there significants to this or is that a poor analysis?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-01-2010, 11:33 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
Is boasting a fig from 103 to 108 the same as boasting it for 60 to 65.. when you boast from 103 to 108 its about a 5% inflation but 9% in the other example.. Is there significants to this or is that a poor analysis?
It is a poor analysis, because a 65 is not 60% as fast as a 108, it is much faster.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-01-2010, 11:38 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

So making a fig 25 instead of 20 is the same as 110 to 115? I guess it seems a more dramtic inflation from 20 to 25?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-01-2010, 11:43 AM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

It is pretty much the same. It might be a tiny bit different, but nowhere what you were suggesting. The difference at 6f between a 20 and a 100 Beyer is 5 to 6 seconds. The race takes high 60s, low 70s seconds to complete. Wrap your head around that for awhile before asking more questions. You'll get it.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-01-2010, 11:54 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Interesting..

Horse A was given a 25 should have been a 20 and his next race is one were the winning par in 30

Horse B was given 95 but it should have been a 90 and his next race is one were the winning par is 100

Both theorically need to improve 10pts to win but the jump from 20-30 is equal to 90 -100.. I would have thought the 20 to 30 horses had more to improve then the 90 to 100 horse.. I guess I was very wrong again
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-01-2010, 12:06 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
Interesting..

Horse A was given a 25 should have been a 20 and his next race is one were the winning par in 30

Horse B was given 95 but it should have been a 90 and his next race is one were the winning par is 100

Both theorically need to improve 10pts to win but the jump from 20-30 is equal to 90 -100.. I would have thought the 20 to 30 horses had more to improve then the 90 to 100 horse.. I guess I was very wrong again
You are getting there. Ten points is about 7/10ths of a second on the Beyer scale. Which horses will have an easier time improving that much, those running 1:14 or those running 1:10?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.