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Old 09-24-2006, 10:26 PM
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If you believe in Bernie, you should unload on this 2-1, becuase you won't get that on BC day if he wins the JGCC impressively
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:04 PM
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Anyone think that Sun King will be more or less than 16/1 at post time or right around there? I think that he is probably the best pure closer in the field and the pace could be pretty quick because I see Bright One running.
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:06 PM
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Anyone think that Sun King will be more or less than 16/1 at post time or right around there? I think that he is probably the best pure closer in the field and the pace could be pretty quick because I see Bright One running.
I would take nothing less than 20-1 on Sun King
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:34 PM
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If you believe in Bernie, you should unload on this 2-1, becuase you won't get that on BC day if he wins the JGCC impressively
Depends on who else is in the field and their next races as to what Berni will be also. No way I bet a 3 yo in the Classic at 2-1. JGCC or not.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:59 AM
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If you believe in Bernie, you should unload on this 2-1, becuase you won't get that on BC day if he wins the JGCC impressively
Well, if you want to unload, you might as well unload on the 2.2-1 at VIPsports or its sister, BetGameday.com.

IMO, 2.2-1 is not nearly enough, though. There is probably at least a 25% chance that Bernardini doesn't even start in the BCC. And there's AT LEAST a 25% chance that he loses the JCGC, in which case his BCC odds will almost certainly be greater than 2-1. But it all together, and I'd need at least 4-1 on Bernardini now to consider making a BCC future bet on him.

Here are the futures at VIP/Sports Gameday. Many are better than Pinnacle's odds, but the only one I'm sure I like is the 50-1 on Second of June. Whoever asked for 20-1 on Sun King, it's there.

Bernadini 11 to 5
Invasor 7 to 1
Lava Man 6 to 1
Discreet Cat 20 to 1
David Junior 10 to 1
Suave 50 to 1
Brother Derek 30 to 1
Flower Alley 50 to 1
Jazil 25 to 1
Bright One 25 to 1
lawyer Ron 25 to 1
Sun King 20 to 1
Perfect Drift 50 to 1
Seek Gold 40 to 1
Giacomo 40 to 1
Stevie Wonderboy 30 to 1
Buzzards Bay 60 to 1
Premium Tap 40 to 1
Second of June 50 to 1
Cindago 40 to 1
Bob and John 30 to 1
Dylan Thomas 12 to 1
Shirroco 10 to 1
GOULDINGS GREEN 40 to 1
Wanderin Boy 25 to 1


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Old 09-25-2006, 12:09 PM
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he is yet to race aginst older horses, much less defeat one , and you think two to one is a good bet??

i don't.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:13 PM
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Paul, if you don't Bernie will smoke older, you need to learn how to watch a race. I have been betting for 15 years, actually watching races for 5, and watched a TON of video of older 'great' horses. Bernandini has the best stride and best action out of any of them. I hope that he sticks around for a 4 year old campaign so I can figure out a place to see him live, given his connections, I think it is extremely possible
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:16 PM
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Shoot, you can get the winner of the race for 50-1. I'll take that.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:27 PM
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Shoot, you can get the winner of the race for 50-1. I'll take that.
He'll hang ... he always does
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