Donn Handicap Nominees

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Alysheba was between Siphon and LaW.

Wouldn't the Big Crap be a better name than the Big Fraud in terms of mocking the race?

The invention of the Dubai World Cup has hurt the race ... but it's still one of America's great races.

I stongly agree.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

On second thought... Freddy's probably right.

[RolloTomasi]

Interestingly, in each of the past 7 runnings at least one horse from the race has gone on to win a Grade 1 later the same year.

A large chunk of the most notable racehorses from the last 25 years have run in the race. Ferdinand, Broad Brush, Snow Chief, Alysheba, Criminal Type, Bayakoa, Quiet American, Pleasant Tap, In Excess, Best Pal, Bertrando, The Wicked North, Bien Bien, Dare And Go, Serena's Song, Afternoon Deelites, Siphon, Gentlemen, Formal Gold, Free House, Silver Charm, General Challenge, Tiznow, Congaree, Pleasantly Perfect, Southern Image, Rock Hard Ten, Saint Liam, Lava Man.

Freddy really has no understanding (or respect) of the game or its history or its tradition, so his posts are pretty much the internet equivalent of rice cakes.

[tector]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Freddy really has no understanding (or respect) of the game or its history or its tradition, so his posts are pretty much the internet equivalent of rice cakes.

Maybe, but the people who hastily put this formerly great race on recycled condoms have even less respect for the game or its history.

DWC suction + polyturd = I really just don't give a damn any more.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by tector

Maybe, but the people who hastily put this formerly great race on recycled condoms have even less respect for the game or its history.

No. Freddy's worse. If he ran the CHRB, he wouldn't have mandated conversion to synthetics. He would have abolished the entire winter-spring Santa Anita meet, because none of the Santa "This" or La "That" or San "Whatever" stakes races have any impact on the Breeder's Cup.

[tector]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

No. Freddy's worse. If he ran the CHRB

But he doesn't, he's just talking.

The people who actually had such responsibility in the real world effed it up. They are worse--to whom much is given, much is to be expected.

Regardless, hopefully that will all be just a bad memory after this meet. SA can't do anything about the DWC, but correcting what it can will be welcomed. I am going to try to be more positive about it--as soon as this meet is over.

[Indian Charlie]

While yeah, the Big Cap ain't what it used to be, there have been some nice winners since Lord at War.

Free House, Best Pal, Stuka, Farma Way, Broad Brush and Greinton.

Free House being the most recent of those, back in 99. Tiznow as well, of course, in 01.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by tector

But he doesn't, he's just talking.

The people who actually had such responsibility in the real world effed it up. They are worse--to whom much is given, much is to be expected.

Regardless, hopefully that will all be just a bad memory after this meet. SA can't do anything about the DWC, but correcting what it can will be welcomed. I am going to try to be more positive about it--as soon as this meet is over.

Huh? Whatever, dude.

Who do you like in the Donn?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Interestingly, in each of the past 7 runnings at least one horse from the race has gone on to win a Grade 1 later the same year.

A large chunk of the most notable racehorses from the last 25 years have run in the race. Ferdinand, Broad Brush, Snow Chief, Alysheba, Criminal Type, Bayakoa, Quiet American, Pleasant Tap, In Excess, Best Pal, Bertrando, The Wicked North, Bien Bien, Dare And Go, Serena's Song, Afternoon Deelites, Siphon, Gentlemen, Formal Gold, Free House, Silver Charm, General Challenge, Tiznow, Congaree, Pleasantly Perfect, Southern Image, Rock Hard Ten, Saint Liam, Lava Man.

Freddy really has no understanding (or respect) of the game or its history or its tradition, so his posts are pretty much the internet equivalent of rice cakes.

So in the 8 years since Tiznow won the race you grace us with 3 or 4 non winners that went on to win a G1 later in the year.. I am pretty sure I can find the same swill from NW1 races..Whoopie 4 horses in 8 years that went on to win a G1 have a heart do you read this crap.. Scrap it nobody goes there anymore its a toasted rice cake

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So in the 8 years since Tiznow won the race you grace us with 3 or 4 non winners that went on to win a G1 later in the year.. I am pretty sure I can find the same swill from NW1 races..Whoopie 4 horses in 8 years that went on to win a G1 have a heart do you read this crap.. Scrap it nobody goes there anymore its a toasted rice cake

Whatever, Freddy. Distort what was said so you can look like and idiot. Its not 4 in the last 8, its 7 of the last 7. That's enough to validate it as a significant race. Only as far back as the 90's, the race is littered with winners of the Jockey Club Gold Cup, Hollywood Gold Cup, Pacific Classic, etc. 3 BC Classic winners in the less than 10 years.

Didn't Saint Liam run in the race during his HOY campaign?

You're an embarrassment. Have a heart.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Whatever, Freddy. Distort what was said so you can look like and idiot. Its not 4 in the last 8, its 7 of the last 7. That's enough to validate it as a significant race. Only as far back as the 90's, the race is littered with winners of the Jockey Club Gold Cup, Hollywood Gold Cup, Pacific Classic, etc. 3 BC Classic winners in the less than 10 years.

Didn't Saint Liam run in the race during his HOY campaign?

You're an embarrassment. Have a heart.

Come on its time to let go