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Old 01-27-2010, 09:12 PM
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This is the hottest story to hit the internet since Tiger Woods!
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:14 PM
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Can't wait to hear about his childhood from his mother. How he helped little old ladies across the street, etc....
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:29 PM
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Lane Gilforte chiming in:

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January 27th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

Wow, very impressive Mr. Gill,
It must be nice to have so much money and get away with all that you have gotten away with and continue to do so. And than threaten people that speak the truth against your actions.
For the record, I fully admit that there were times I was very ticked off about your persistent attacks on my business and the position you put me and my family in. You almost put me out of business and I have a family to support and I believe that would make anyone concerned. However, on the other hand, I was instructed to lose the horses that I had when I relocated to Penn from Fair Hill. Penn National being the choice because of you, it was known that you would make this goal achievable. In doing so, I knew that if I talked to Tony and slammed you with names and criticism and asked him to tell you to back off that you would keep coming. Believe what you want, but it worked. If either of you was smart enough to contact my owner and the time like Tony threatened to and tell him you were going to quit claiming the horses because of my calls than I probably would have lost my job. But instead, you both fell into the trap and took the horses I was sent to lose. And in turn, I have acquired new clients and new horses because of you. Again, I am not saying that at some times I was not pissed and reacted at the heat of the moment but 9 of 10 times my calls had a purpose.

To add to that, Tony told me one night and I quote as closely as I can remember, “I can’t tell this man anything. He is never happy. If we win 4 than he’s mad that we didn’t win 5. If we win 10 in week than we should have won 12. I hired Cole Norman so that I don’t have to listen to his **** anymore. If I lost my job today than I would be very relieved and move back to Canada.”
Does knowing your employees feel this kind of pressure, dissatisfaction and lack of appreciation make you feel like a man. Like you are so much better than them and everyone else.

You indirectly attack people. You threaten people. You treat people like they have no worth.
The jockeys that your trainer’s leg up to ride your horses are people to. People with families. People that sit at home and watch their father/husband lay motionless at the 1/4 pole and worry sick until they get the phone call that they are OK. If you can say you don’t allow your trainers to run sore horses and you can believe that you don’t put pressure on them to do so, than I truly hope that helps you sleep at night.

Mr. Gill, you are a horrible person. And believe me, I have never hated someone in my life as much as I hate you!! And can say that this sport would be better without you in it but also feel that this world would be better without you in it. That is not a threat, that is my heartfelt feeling!!!


Do they teach English in Pennsylvania?
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:29 PM
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Do they teach English in Pennsylvania?
English?...



You mean our longtime Congressman Phil English?





Better known to the racing world as Tom from Pace Advantage.
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:09 PM
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Lane Gilforte chiming in:

Startin' Small Says:
January 27th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

*butthurt nonsense*


Mr. Gill, you are a horrible person. And believe me, I have never hated someone in my life as much as I hate you!! And can say that this sport would be better without you in it but also feel that this world would be better without you in it. That is not a threat, that is my heartfelt feeling!!! You go to hell!! You go to hell and you die!

Come on, Mr. Slave!! Lets go home!

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:38 PM
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Glad Paulick still has balls.
I would have thought that Paulick would be sympathetic to someone like a Mike Gill.

I was subjected to having to listen to otherwise polite and courteous racing writers tell me all about how Paulick is this tremendously horrible person.

I just nodded and said "yeah?" over and over. Few things are less interesting than hearing people info-whoring and whisper campaigning to me against someone I don't know and didn't bring up.

Nothing anyone says about Gill will influence how I view him.

He does the same type of stuff others do ... and he's the one who gets rabidly vilified.

It's not hard to figure out why so many horsemen have an agenda against him. I get why the horsey lovers hate him... but I don't think they really get the low level claiming game.

What's to like about Gill? Pretty much nothing. He's a dopey action fiend .. and that's about the nicest thing to say about him.

Paulick is doing great work to get his site traffic ... but this is not a "closer look at Gill's racing operation" ... it's nothing more than a 'Gill's a bad guy Pile-On-Athon.'
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:01 AM
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I would have thought that Paulick would be sympathetic to someone like a Mike Gill.

I was subjected to having to listen to otherwise polite and courteous racing writers tell me all about how Paulick is this tremendously horrible person.

I just nodded and said "yeah?" over and over. Few things are less interesting than hearing people info-whoring and whisper campaigning to me against someone I don't know and didn't bring up.

Nothing anyone says about Gill will influence how I view him.

He does the same type of stuff others do ... and he's the one who gets rabidly vilified.

It's not hard to figure out why so many horsemen have an agenda against him. I get why the horsey lovers hate him... but I don't think they really get the low level claiming game.

What's to like about Gill? Pretty much nothing. He's a dopey action fiend .. and that's about the nicest thing to say about him.

Paulick is doing great work to get his site traffic ... but this is not a "closer look at Gill's racing operation" ... it's nothing more than a 'Gill's a bad guy Pile-On-Athon.'
So Tom Clifton is just lying here?

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/gi...aulick-report/

“We did it for safety concerns,” jockey Tom Clifton was quoted as saying by the Thoroughbred Times. “We’ve got horses left and right snapping legs off in front of us, and every time it happens, three or four guys behind him go down, too. At what point do you say, ‘Listen, this is getting out of control.’ That’s why we did it, strictly as a safety concern. I have nothing against Michael Gill. I’ve ridden races for him before. I’m just getting tired of watching my fellow riders and horses go down that don’t deserve to.”

Your posts are just another example of you just putting your oversized blinkers on, and not trying to hear from all sides or take in viable information on this topic. Just label those who have different opinions "horsey lovers," or people having an "agenda against him," and keep throwing up PP’s from other horses, and labeling those who do not agree with you. If only your arguments were as adept as your research of PP’s and two year old in training sales, I might take what you say a little more seriously on this topic.

If Gill was just an overzealous owner, trying to rack up wins playing the nickel claimer game, I do not believe he would have so many problems at his doorstep. If a jockey colony, numerous race track administrations, racing authorities, other owners, other trainers, State Governments, the IRS, and multiple State Banking Departments have personal, and legal issues with him and his business's, for years, there must be something going on with this person and his actions. You really believe all these people and agencies are just “horsey lovers” or have an anti-Gill agenda? What conspiracy theory is next on your list to prove (9/11, Bush used a Hurricane Weapon to start Katrina, JFK assassination, the moon landing)?

Just take a look at the number of fines or regulatory infractions this guy's mortgage business has had in the last 2 years. Those alone should give anyone some doubt on this man's ethical behavior in his business practices.

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Old 01-28-2010, 11:08 AM
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Pitchforks!! Guilty until proven innocent!

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