Vikings Love in Vegas

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

Part of that could just be the schedule. They play the AFC East and NFC East next year (1st and 4th in the Sagarin) as opposed to the AFC North and NFC West (5th and 8th in the Sagarin). That could easily be 2-4 extra losses.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

Percy Harvin didnt do anything this year that he didnt do last year at FL.

He was by far the best football player on the field for FL's 2008 championship, and underrated in the draft because of behavior issues and maybe a lack of wonderlick smarts.

He's the only player on the Vikings that I like!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Percy Harvin didnt do anything this year that he didnt do last year at FL.

He was by far the best football player on the field for FL's 2008 championship, and underrated in the draft because of behavior issues and maybe a lack of wonderlick smarts.

He's the only player on the Vikings that I like!

He had a lot of question marks though going in and could have easily gone either way I think

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

He had a lot of question marks though going in and could have easily gone either way I think

I think he was a steal for the Vikings.

Would love him on the Eagles though I am plenty satisfied with Maclin and wouldnt trade Maclin for Harvin.. though I find them very similar.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think he was a steal for the Vikings.

Would love him on the Eagles though I am plenty satisfied with Maclin and wouldnt trade Maclin for Harvin.. though I find them very similar.

After the season, absolutely a steal

[SCUDSBROTHER]

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BTW....Leave the SIZZURP (Codeine Cough syrup + soda + a jolly rancher) as a brotha' thing (just saying.) Everything can't be multi-cultural.

[GBBob]

1) Lost the toss going into OT. Should have called tails

2) Shouldn't have that stupid rule (1st team to score wins the game.)Agree...dont think they should adopt college stuff, but each team should either kick off once or get possesion through punt

3) Kicker should of knocked it out of the end zone (instead, a tired team has to cover a return.)Longwell ain't that young anymore

4) Really bad P.I. call in OT (really points out why OT shouldn't be won by the 1st team to get a field goal.) I think the receiver literally tripped over his own feet and wasn't even touched, not even to mention the ball was uncatchable

5) Didn't get the call on a a questionable catch in OT. I've seen that go either way. To me, it's a catch, but often it's not to them.I think it was a catch and there definitely wasn't enough evidence to overturn call on the field

6) Some fool didn't have his hands in the proper position to receive the hand-off from Farve (after the Bush Blunder.) Yep, there's that 3 points that turned out to be rather necessary. That was a killer play for Vikes and really let Bush off the hook for a dumb and selfish play on the punt.

7) Should you really expect a Q.B. to be able to win a game when his team is not taking care of the football at all?

8) How about giving the Saints some credit for pounding him? It's pretty predictable that a hurt Q.B. will be one who makes an important mistake. Fact is he got them to a tie, and then he never got a chance to play in O.T. He made some really nice passes to get them into Saints territory on that last drive. He played a lot better than I expected. The rest of his team played a little worse than I expected. Saints didn't play very well. If they cover like that, then Manning will destroy them.[/quote]Most amazing stat to me was that Favre was actually never sacked once ( I think)..He was absolutely killed back there and that probably let to him not just taking off with the ball instead of throwing back across the field

[SniperSB23]

Pass Interference may have been the wrong call if the ball was uncatchable but it is still illegal contact which is 5 yards and an automatic first down. I didn't see anything in Minnesota's defense down the stretch to suggest that Brees wouldn't have drove them down anyways if they only called illegal contact.

Also, major props have to go to Jermon Bushrod (great last name). Jared Allen was practically nonexistent after the national anthem and he was blocked one on one a lot of the game.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

1) Lost the toss going into OT.

2) Shouldn't have that stupid rule (1st team to score wins the game.)

3) Kicker should of knocked it out of the end zone (instead, a tired team has to cover a return.)

4) Really bad P.I. call in OT (really points out why OT shouldn't be won by the 1st team to get a field goal.)

5) Didn't get the call on a a questionable catch in OT. I've seen that go either way. To me, it's a catch, but often it's not (to them.)

6) Some fool didn't have his hands in the proper position to receive the hand-off from Farve (after the Bush Blunder.) Yep, there's that 3 points that turned out to be rather necessary.

7) Should you really expect a Q.B. to be able to win a game when his team is not taking care of the football at all?

8) How about giving the Saints some credit for pounding him? It's pretty predictable that a hurt Q.B. will be one who makes an important mistake. Fact is he got them to a tie, and then he never got a chance to play in O.T. He made some really nice passes to get them into Saints territory on that last drive. He played a lot better than I expected. The rest of his team played a little worse than I expected. Saints didn't play very well. If they cover like that, then Manning will destroy them.