ramon dominguez love in florida

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Deepest??? Best??? I am looking at AQU Jockey standings right now and he is just schooling the likes of David Cohen, Angel Serpa (Who?), Napravnik and Charles Lopez (Who?) Doesnt Aqueduct run 6 months out of the year? Again another example of a good jockey crushing a poor-mediocre group of jockeys,

You also forget that your top tier jockeys in NYRA are spent shuffling around Keeneland, Gulfstream, Churchill. And again they dont ride near as enough mounts as Dominguez to even contend jockey titles. What they do beat him in is definetely in Graded stakes win.

Also, you seem to empasize wins in Claiming, ALW as more important than anything else.

I am not going to argue that Dominguez is a good jockey or not but as far as being elite --Not yet my friend.

How can you win over 300 races on the NY circuit and not be elite? Because he didn't win a BC race? The guy has been on a major circuit for one year full time! How many mounts do you think he was going to accumulate?

I'd reserve judgment on whether Dominguez is "not elite" until he gets quite a few more legitimate mounts in big races.

NT

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

How can you win over 300 races on the NY circuit and not be elite? Because he didn't win a BC race? The guy has been on a major circuit for one year full time! How many mounts do you think he was going to accumulate?

I'd reserve judgment on whether Dominguez is "not elite" until he gets quite a few more legitimate mounts in big races.

NT

As you know, big races extend beyond BC/TC races and still he is a relative no-show. Winning over 300 races and winning at 25% clip doesnt inherit you big mounts. If that was the case then Russel Baze, and Clinton Potts would be first call for any elite trainer of thier choice. Elite riders not only win one or two Grade ones but repeat and repeat thier wins in Grade Ones.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

As you know, big races extend beyond BC/TC races and still he is a relative no-show. Winning over 300 races and winning at 25% clip doesnt inherit you big mounts. If that was the case then Russel Baze, and Clinton Potts would be first call for any elite trainer of thier choice. Elite riders not only win one or two Grade ones but repeat and repeat thier wins in Grade Ones.

So he sucks because he doesn't win big races and he sucks because he doesn't win big races because trainers don't want riders that win at a high clip?

I never said that Ramon gets a lot of "big mounts" and fails with them in what you call big races.

Let me ask you a question, how do you feel about Joel Rosario?

NT

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So he sucks because he doesn't win big races and he sucks because he doesn't win big races because trainers don't want riders that win at a high clip?

I never said that Ramon gets a lot of "big mounts" and fails with them in what you call big races.

Let me ask you a question, how do you feel about Joel Rosario?

NT

Now, I did not say he sucks. I only mentioned Russel Baze, and Clinton Potts because these are other jocks that win a lot at high percentage but when given the oppurtunity to step up thier game in Big Races, they are a No-Show. However, to put Ramon him in the level of Gomez, Leparoux, Desourmaux etc. is not merited yet.

Just like Dominguez, Rosario is a rising star but he is more than a decade younger and has much much less riding experience than Dominguez. Rosario is not elite yet but as far as riding talent, I perfer Rosario slightly ahead of Ramon.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Now, I did not say he sucks. I only mentioned Russel Baze, and Clinton Potts because these are other jocks that win a lot at high percentage but when given the oppurtunity to step up thier game in Big Races, they are a No-Show. However, to put Ramon him in the level of Gomez, Leparoux, Desourmaux etc. is not merited yet.

Just like Dominguez, Rosario is a rising star but he is more than a decade younger and has much much less riding experience than Dominguez. Rosario is not elite yet but as far as riding talent, I perfer Rosario slightly ahead of Ramon.

STOP

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

STOP

Whats your problem?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Whats your problem?

Watch his ride vs Mcvictory yesterday at the Big A.
Watch every single horse he rides even if he does not win, Ramon always finds the rail and is always in prime position to strike... Watch his ride on WH tomorrow at Gulfstream, I here he's going to trip out.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

As you know, big races extend beyond BC/TC races and still he is a relative no-show. Winning over 300 races and winning at 25% clip doesnt inherit you big mounts. If that was the case then Russel Baze, and Clinton Potts would be first call for any elite trainer of thier choice. Elite riders not only win one or two Grade ones but repeat and repeat thier wins in Grade Ones.

he won 5 grade 1's last year. how many grade 1's in a year puts you in elite company?