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Old 01-19-2010, 08:46 PM
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I wonder if they know he's in favor of abortion?
As are many Republicans including myself.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:03 PM
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As are many Republicans including myself.
And me. We'd all fail the "Are you a true GOP supporter" party test, as would Brown Glad they dropped that silliness ...

My point was that Brown ran a great political campaign, and Coakely ran a lousy one. She got what she earned from the electorate.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:08 PM
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the spin will be that she ran a terrible campaign and that women voted for the man becasue they hate women

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Old 01-19-2010, 11:04 PM
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1) People in Mass. already have mandatory healthcare. They couldn't care less if it fails.

2) I just saw this guy Brown, and he said some entertaining stuff (inappropriate, but entertaining.) She's a bore.

3) She said Schilling is a Yankees fan. Every guy has one of these ("sports are stupid") type bitches somewhere in their life. You might want to run a sports fan in a sports state. A whole lot of people don't give a sht who wins, and are just gunna vote for the person most like themselves (that ain't a woman who ignores sports.)

4)She was AWOL in the Carribean etc. from Dec 19th-Jan 5th (while Brown was trying to get something won.)

5) As I said before, OBAMA was in Hawaii living it up for 10 days in late December (while the economy sucks.) Shouldn't be out golfing, n' having fun until you've fixed the economy(just saying.)

6) Dems are ignoring Illegal Immigration. That's a critical mistake that they are totally tone deaf about, and they need to stop giving away this issue.

7) Dems tend to think there is such a thing as Moderate Islam (there is no such thing as moderate evil.)

8) OBA hasn't set definite goals for what's going on in Afghanistan. I guarantee you the money would be better spent on working very hard to keep this Moslem scum out of this country.

9) Wall street prospering while mainstreet suffers.

10) Said he was going to recognize the Armenian Genocide (nope...liar.) Bailed on Armenian-American supporters. Again, why did he do this? Trying to be friends with Turks. How'd that work out? Crap, right? Who told you that was futile? Moi...Turks care about Turk Blood and /or fellow Muslims. They are sticking up for Iran's right to make nucs....Told you not to try to make friends with these savages, but nooo....You bail on Armenian supporters, and get what? Huh?


11) Bailed on Gay n' Lesbians (before he even took office...poor choice.) They will not be there working for him in elections like the one that ended tonite. OBA, go call Pastor Rick n' see what that gets ya.

12) Cut deals with Blue Dog Senators (instead of threatening to beat their ass in Democratic Primaries.)

13) He's too worried about being liked by people that have no intention of working with him.

14-20) Grow a Set (x 7)

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Old 01-20-2010, 06:55 AM
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1) People in Mass. already have mandatory healthcare. They couldn't care less if it fails.

2) I just saw this guy Brown, and he said some entertaining stuff (inappropriate, but entertaining.) She's a bore.

3) She said Schilling is a Yankees fan. Every guy has one of these ("sports are stupid") type bitches somewhere in their life. You might want to run a sports fan in a sports state. A whole lot of people don't give a sht who wins, and are just gunna vote for the person most like themselves (that ain't a woman who ignores sports.)

4)She was AWOL in the Carribean etc. from Dec 19th-Jan 5th (while Brown was trying to get something won.)

5) As I said before, OBAMA was in Hawaii living it up for 10 days in late December (while the economy sucks.) Shouldn't be out golfing, n' having fun until you've fixed the economy(just saying.)

6) Dems are ignoring Illegal Immigration. That's a critical mistake that they are totally tone deaf about, and they need to stop giving away this issue.

7) Dems tend to think there is such a thing as Moderate Islam (there is no such thing as moderate evil.)

8) OBA hasn't set definite goals for what's going on in Afghanistan. I guarantee you the money would be better spent on working very hard to keep this Moslem scum out of this country.

9) Wall street prospering while mainstreet suffers.

10) Said he was going to recognize the Armenian Genocide (nope...liar.) Bailed on Armenian-American supporters. Again, why did he do this? Trying to be friends with Turks. How'd that work out? Crap, right? Who told you that was futile? Moi...Turks care about Turk Blood and /or fellow Muslims. They are sticking up for Iran's right to make nucs....Told you not to try to make friends with these savages, but nooo....You bail on Armenian supporters, and get what? Huh?


11) Bailed on Gay n' Lesbians (before he even took office...poor choice.) They will not be there working for him in elections like the one that ended tonite. OBA, go call Pastor Rick n' see what that gets ya.

12) Cut deals with Blue Dog Senators (instead of threatening to beat their ass in Democratic Primaries.)

13) He's too worried about being liked by people that have no intention of working with him.

14-20) Grow a Set (x 7)

scuds you can paint it anyway you want , yesterday and the gov races in nov show the independents have given up on the dems for now
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:16 AM
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Nice to see the Democrats lose another seat. But as the skank Pelosi said the Health Reform Bill will be passed one way or another no matter what the American public wants. O'Dumbass is now 0-3 when it comes to camaigning for people thats an awesome perccentage 0. Cant wait for November to get here, if Pelosi is up for election hoping she will have the same fate as Coakley and the two Democrats had in New Jersey and Virginia governor elections. Lets see how long it takes Senator Elect Brown to get seated. Will the Democratic party resort to the dirty pool they have been playing since O'Dumbass went into the White House. What happened to all the open door meetings he said would happen with the Health Reform Bill. Its turned into a secret camp fire meetings only Democrats invited. Im sure thier not toasting marshmellows or mayking smores. I especially cant wait for 2012 to get here.
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scuds you can paint it anyway you want , yesterday and the gov races in nov show the independents have given up on the dems for now
Oh, just wait when one of your pigs gets in there, and has gotta get 60% for everything. Your time is coming. Independents know the least about why something doesn't work. DEMS n' Repubs usually know exactly why something fails. They just won't admit it. Independents vote mainly on personality, n' that's why McCain couldn't get them, and that's why this cold fish couldn't get Independent Sox fans (even if she'd offered to blow em.) You gunna run a Pro-Choice candidate in 2012? You want INDEPENDENTS? Better do it. Can you get one the Repub nomination?.. Not.

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scuds you can paint it anyway you want , yesterday and the gov races in nov show the independents have given up on the dems for now
Wait 'til the Independents hear that the Conservatives on the Supreme Court just allowed companies to buy elections.
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And me. We'd all fail the "Are you a true GOP supporter" party test, as would Brown Glad they dropped that silliness ...

My point was that Brown ran a great political campaign, and Coakely ran a lousy one. She got what she earned from the electorate.
You're right. Brown ran a fantastic campaign and worked hard for this win. Coakley just assumed it was hers and went to Washington fundraisers when she should have been campaigning here. She also insulted too many different groups and seemed unconcerned about it. Early on, they just assumed women would vote for her because she's a woman. By Monday, it was "women are voting for Brown because he posed in Cosmo and is good-looking". It never occurred to them that women could actually vote on issues. She insulted Catholics. Big mistake there. The Kennedys were Irish Catholics and had many supporters there. Also the hispanic community is largely Catholic. lastly, she insulted the Red Sox fans. A big no-no in the Boston area especially. She gave an overall impression of "I'm better than the little people". That elitist attitude is wearing thin. Lastly, when the polls began to show a close race, she went extremely negative in her tv ads. I can't begin to tell you how that turned people off.
Both parties should learn something from this election. Voters are sick and tired of negative ads. They want to hear about the issues. Voters want someone who is listening to them and they don't care if they are republicans or democrats. Voters are tired of the far-right and far-left. The independent party (at least here in MA. although I'm pretty sure it's happening in the rest of the country) is growing because of this. As much as both extremes would like to believe, gay marriage and abortion are not the big issues. Most people accept that abortion is a personal choice and could care less if gay people get married. Independents can also think for themselves and don't need a political party to tell them how to vote. They also don't need a leader (hence the term "independent"). Scott Brown was elected because he listened to the people. If he goes to Washington and forgets that, he will be voted out in 2012 by those same people. The republicans would be making a big mistake if they think this election means politics as usual. Both parties have vastly underestimated the anger of the people. Hopefully this election will get their attention.
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They want to hear about the issues.
No, they mainly don't care. A state with over 50% Independents is true sign that they don't give a fk about the issues. People who care about issues don't vote for people that disagree with them on the issues they care about. They elect Kennedy, and Romney. O.K.? Opposites. THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T GIVE A SHT ABOUT THE ISSUES. That's not what people do when they actually care about the issues. For example, this guy feasted on the deal Nelson got, but why was that deal done? Well, it's that stupid 60% bullshit, and I highly doubt he cared to talk about that 60% issue. That's the real issue that created the problem he feasted on. I doubt these people (you say care about the issues) even cared about that very real problem that's gunna keep Presidents from being able to properly govern (from now on.)

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They want to hear about the issues.

The voters in Ma. voted for Obama by at least a 20% winning margin. This lady lost by about 5 %. That's at least a 25% change. Now, tell me how her positions differed from OBAMA'S. I'd like to know. To me, it's obvious that a state like this (where over 50% of the voters are registered Independents) is probably voting on personality etc. In other words, Teddy didn't take them for granted. He worked hard for their vote. I'm sure he was incorrect(too LIBERAL for a state where a majority are Independents) on the issues, but they weren't voting on the issues.
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The voters in Ma. voted for Obama by at least a 20% winning margin. This lady lost by about 5 %. That's at least a 25% change. Now, tell me how her positions differed from OBAMA'S. I'd like to know. To me, it's obvious that a state like this (where over 50% of the voters are registered Independents) is probably voting on personality etc. In other words, Teddy didn't take them for granted. He worked hard for their vote. I'm sure he was incorrect(too LIBERAL for a state where a majority are Independents) on the issues, but they weren't voting on the issues.
Obama brought out the minority vote. Coakley did not. As I pointed out in an earlier post, she insulted the hispanic community. Her whole platform was to blindly follow Obama. Obama promised transparency and to work across party lines. People aren't seeing that happen. To quote my extremely liberal nephew "he's just another politician".
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Obama brought out the minority vote. Coakley did not. As I pointed out in an earlier post, she insulted the hispanic community. Her whole platform was to blindly follow Obama. Obama promised transparency and to work across party lines. People aren't seeing that happen. To quote my extremely liberal nephew "he's just another politician".
Those are personality issues. There's no actual policy issues in that post. Work across party lines? Oh he tried. He's got more Republican ass on those lips than could ever be expected. They were the ones who refused to work across party lines. It got characterized the incorrect way, because Chowder Heads didn't take the time to look at who was willing to negotiate. They wouldn't budge, and Chowder Heads didn't bother to observe who wouldn't come across the aisle. Transparency? Maybe. Working across party lines? You got the wrong villain there. When you make someone get 60 %, you're gunna make people have to act like they're just another politician. Like I said, most of the complaints in that election came directly as a result of that 60% rule, but I doubt that issue was ever part of that election (other than one parasite feasting off the ugly results that rule will always produce.)
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Believe me Scuds, You will come to appreciate that 60% rule.
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