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Old 01-19-2010, 06:03 PM
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Yeah, Dell, he hasn't been progressive enough for the independents that voted him in. Look at the healthcare polls - but look at poll numbers that ask the right questions, that show people still do want healthcare reform (just like who elected him) - what they don't want the crappy, useless Senate version.
so those independents have bailed and now are coming out for conservative- independent Brown and other repubs in the case of NJ and Virg, or just so disgusted they are staying home and not voting? And I think you're looking at polls asking the 'right' people not 'right' questions as in Huffington visitors and ACORN office workers aka 'Pimp and Ho Consultants, LLC'.

Like Pelosi said no matter what the people in Mass want, healthcare will get done. Very tough to make decisions on anything other than what the people want and keep the people's support but that is what elections and tonight are all about. The future's finally looking brighter and we're finally seeing the results of all that spending like a drunkin sailor, Obama has done!
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:19 PM
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From what I've seen the super-left liberals are angry Obama hasn't done more, and they were openly calling for not passing this healthcare reform as it stands (the Senate version), as it's "too weak". I've seen more pointed op-ed criticisms of Obama and economics/healthcare on Kos, Slate, HuffPo type sites than Fox!

But no, those are not who are voting for Brown and GOP candidates from what I've seen. Brown voters, if he gets elected today, I would guess are the "middle go either way" type of folks that classify themselves not as Dem or GOP, but Independent. The GOP is far outnumbered by Dems in Mass, but Dems are outnumbered by Independents. The Ind. control this election in Mass.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:28 PM
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Just a coincidence the independent vote has been democratic for the past 50yrs?
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:21 PM
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Just a coincidence the independent vote has been democratic for the past 50yrs?
??? I think 37% classify themselves as independent now (saw it somewhere today), don't know how they classified themselves 40 years ago.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:56 PM
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??? I think 37% classify themselves as independent now
thats half of the dems that voted for this fraud..they are halfway to the right!!!

over under on ob tv speeches during 4 years 380 my boy loves flooossin' fo the camera!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:10 PM
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Obama has a 75% personal approval rating in Mass. They love him.

What they don't like is what is happening with economics: Wall Street not Main Street attitude, and jobs, according to interviews of voters today. That's what this election means.

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

But now, with the GOP all set to vote and campaign against any taxation of bank bonuses, and recently voting blanketly against financial reform bills - which party will be on the side of the "will of the people" when it comes to "Wall Street vs Main Street"? The GOP better pay attention to this result, too.

Especially when the candidate in Mass who just won, ran on a platform calling himself "41" - promising to vote against something the CBO says will markedly lower our countries deficit.

Politics isn't simple.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:13 PM
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Obama has a 75% personal approval rating in Mass. They love him.

What they don't like is what is happening with economics: Wall Street not Main Street attitude, and jobs, according to interviews of voters today. That's what this election means.

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

But now, with the GOP all set to vote and campaign against any taxation of bank bonuses, and recently voting blanketly against financial reform bills - which party will be on the side of the "will of the people" when it comes to "Wall Street vs Main Street"? The GOP better pay attention to this result, too.

Especially when the candidate in Mass who just won, ran on a platform calling himself "41" - promising to vote against something the CBO says will markedly lower our countries deficit.

Politics isn't simple.

You're wrong on the Brown election. The two main voter concerns were the health care reform they're trying to rush through and terrorism. People are very much against having these trials in N.Y. and giving terrorists the same rights as U.S. citizens.
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