Jerry Moss just said....

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Frost King

See what I don't understand, is that RA was annointed Champion before the Classic was even run. So why is it acceptable in horse racing to give the accolades before the season is over, but in all other sports, we wait until the playoffs. The Colts may have been the best team until Sunday's kickoff, but if the Jets beat them and win the Super Bowl, do we still crown the Colts Champions? The Colts rested there team the last two weeks, of the season. Nobody is giving them credit for maybe going 16-0. So why are we salivating over RA season, but when the Super Bowl(aka Classic) was run, we totally disregard the winner and blow it off, like it does not count. All I know, in the one field that Zenyatta beat that Saturday, there will be more horses standing at stud from that group, than the tomato cans that Rachael beat in all three times that see beat the males. In fact, just check out the field that Winning Colors beat in her Derby run, and she beat some pretty good horses that were eventually going to stud.

I might be wrong, but didn't the NFL just announce that Peyton Manning won MVP and Charles Woodson won the Defensive Player of the Year award? Good thing the league waited until the season was over to dish out the hardware.

[Frost King]

Every league has Season ending awards and playoff awards. The last time I checked, all stats in horse racing start on January 1 and end December 31. Just ask Garrett Gomez and Julian Leparoux. So by your analagy, the top seed in the AFC and NFC should be awarded the byes into the SuperBowl based on the season record. So if Manning gets hurt, we vote the Colts in as Super Bowl Champions because they were the best team during the regular season? Eventhough they might get beat in the playoffs? Someone once said to me, "That is why we play the games!"

[Scav]

'We play to WIN the games, its that simple'

[packerbacker7964]

to say your better is one thing but another to prove it. just find out hwre RA is running her comeback race and be there to run against her. Everytime RA sticks her arse out on a track be there with Zenny to race her

[slotdirt]

The fundamental difference in this Frost King character's argument is that...wait for it...THERE ARE NO PLAYOFFS IN HORSE RACING. Ahem.

[tector]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The fundamental difference in this Frost King character's argument is that...wait for it...THERE ARE NO PLAYOFFS IN HORSE RACING. Ahem.

I told him that already. It had no affect on his rant.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The fundamental difference in this Frost King character's argument is that...wait for it...THERE ARE NO PLAYOFFS IN HORSE RACING. Ahem.

Don't you get it? The Breeders' Cup is CHAMPIONSHIP DAY, just like it always was. Because nothing about it has changed for the past two renewals. Not one factor. Can't think of a thing that might make people more inclined to avoid it than they were pre-2008.

[Frost King]

Yes we do have a playoff in horse racing. You qualify for the Breeder's Cup by winning the "Win and Your In Route," or by garnering points in BC eligible races or by special invite. So you do have a playoff style system in horse racing. It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season? If the end game is meaningless, then the lead up to it is also meaningless. I can understand, if a horse gets injured, but still then, do you give the MVP in baseball to a player that ends his season in July/August because he was going to be on pace for a season of all seasons? Or does it go to the guy that played to the end and put his team over the top? So before the BC, it was the toughest field that Zenyatta was going to face. So when she disposes them like they were standing still, the outcome is meaningless. You can't have both ways.

[slotdirt]

This sounds like a fellow who would also strongly advocate against a college football playoff.

[tector]

Originally Posted by Frost King

Yes we do have a playoff in horse racing. You qualify for the Breeder's Cup by winning the "Win and Your In Route," or by garnering points in BC eligible races or by special invite. So you do have a playoff style system in horse racing. It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season? If the end game is meaningless, then the lead up to it is also meaningless. I can understand, if a horse gets injured, but still then, do you give the MVP in baseball to a player that ends his season in July/August because he was going to be on pace for a season of all seasons? Or does it go to the guy that played to the end and put his team over the top? So before the BC, it was the toughest field that Zenyatta was going to face. So when she disposes them like they were standing still, the outcome is meaningless. You can't have both ways.

No one said it as "meaningless". It just wasn't meaningful enough.

Is your whole life drawn in such black and whites? What a tiresome bore you must be.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Frost King

It all points towards the Championship Breeder's Cup Weekend. If that weekend means squat, then the whole program through the year is a sham. The whole concept of the Breeder's Cup is then useless. So why then have BC races during the season?

Good question.

[slotdirt]

The problem with the above argument is that there really isn't an actual "offseason" in horse racing. It's not like every single horse is on the exact same schedule and is compelled to run 16 or 82 or 162 times per year or whatever.