Trainers Love the New Track at Hollywood

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Have you watched Relaxed Gesture's races this year? He has not been running well at all.

yes, unlike you I have watched them all and I think he has run very well right up until the last time out.
think what you will.

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

yes, unlike you I have watched them all and I think he has run very well right up until the last time out.
think what you will.

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He hasn't won a race all year. He ran 5th in his last race and he ran 5th in his race before that.

[repent]

yeah,
well its been fun.

Relaxed Gesture has run well but not won this year.
think of him what you will, its not like Im picking him to win anything.

I do know this, he is a hell of a lot better than The Slow Man.
I strongly hope that the pumpkin guy and all his post position reading pals will run to the windows with all their cash on BC day to bet the Tin Man.

then maybe some of us will get better than 1/9 on Hurrican Run.

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
well its been fun.

Relaxed Gesture has run well but not won this year.
think of him what you will, its not like Im picking him to win anything.

I do know this, he is a hell of a lot better than The Slow Man.
I strongly hope that the pumpkin guy and all his post position reading pals will run to the windows with all their cash on BC day to bet the Tin Man.

then maybe some of us will get better than 1/9 on Hurrican Run.

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I don't think The Tin Man is as good as horses like David Junior or Hurricane Run. I never said that he is as good as those horses. But I do think he's much better than Cacique or English Channel.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think The Tin Man is as good as horses like David Junior or Hurricane Run. I never said that he is as good as those horses. But I do think he's much better than Cacique or English Channel.

Richi, let me ask you a question, if I may. Do you think in the Arlington Million that EC was compromised by he far outside post position, then he was bumped even wider out of the gate by Cacique and then raced 3 wide for most of the race?? If the roles had been reversed and EC broke from the 2 hole made an easy lead and led through soft fractions and TTM had the same type trip as EC did, would TTM have done any better than EC did???? Would any horse have done any better than EC did that day??

Anyone that thinks that Cacique is that much better is fooling themselves. They didn't see the way that EC ran by him in the UN like he was standing still.

[Gander]

Relaxed Gesture better than the Tin Man? LOL! Now I have read everything.
So much east coast bias its sickening. Next thing I'll read is Ramazutti is better than the Tin Man.

The Tin Man is such a slow and average horse, LOL. What does that make the horses he just beat in Chicago?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Richi, let me ask you a question, if I may. Do you think in the Arlington Million that EC was compromised by he far outside post position, then he was bumped even wider out of the gate by Cacique and then raced 3 wide for most of the race?? If the roles had been reversed and EC broke from the 2 hole made an easy lead and led through soft fractions and TTM had the same type trip as EC did, would TTM have done any better than EC did???? Would any horse have done any better than EC did that day??

Anyone that thinks that Cacique is that much better is fooling themselves. They didn't see the way that EC ran by him in the UN like he was standing still.

No, I don't think EC had a legitimate excuse in the Million. The trip he had was not my definition of a troubled trip. You watch the races every day. How many winners have a perfect trip and hug the rail all the way around the track? There aren't that many. Horses win every day going 3 wide. If you call that trouble, then you must have about 2,000 horses on your watch-list because there are probably 2 or 3 horses in every race that have a trip like that. there is no way he was going to beat The Tin Man that day. If it would have been a 2 horse field with just the two of them, EC would have lost by a couple of lengths.

[sumitas]

I like The Tin Man and Go Deputy, a horse nobody has mentioned on this thread.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No, I don't think EC had a legitimate excuse in the Million. The trip he had was not my definition of a troubled trip. You watch the races every day. How many winners have a perfect trip and hug the rail all the way around the track? There aren't that many. Horses win every day going 3 wide. If you call that trouble, then you must have about 2,000 horses on your watch-list because there are probably 2 or 3 horses in every race that have a trip like that. there is no way he was going to beat The Tin Man that day. If it would have been a 2 horse field with just the two of them, EC would have lost by a couple of lengths.

If the roles were reversed, would TTM have beat EC??? Honestly?

[Gander]

I agree. I am greatly impressed by the quality of the older turf horses in America this year and have enjoyed all the big races won by Cacique, English Channel and the Tin Man. Keep em coming!

Its rare we get this quality without 1 superstar who clearly is the dominater of the group.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

I agree. I am greatly impressed by the quality of the older turf horses in America this year and have enjoyed all the big races won by Cacique, English Channel and the Tin Man. Keep em coming!

Its rare we get this quality without 1 superstar who clearly is the dominater of the group.

You are right that EC and Cacique have taken turns beating each other. They've never beaten The Tin Man though. Why would you think that either of those horses are as good as he is?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You are right that EC and Cacique have taken turns beating each other. They've never beaten The Tin Man though. Why would you think that either of those horses are as good as he is?

Gonna take him beating them more than one time in a race where everything went perfect for TTM to say that he is "much better" than them.