Haiti

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Hopefully in November 2012 this country will wake up for the Presindential Election.

I sur hop so.

[hi_im_god]

could someone post something else about how haitian's are all f'd up so we shouldn't do anything for them?

i don't know why but seeing stupid f'd up people use a disaster to kick the crap out of a dying society cheers me up.

i worry i've become a misanthrope. but i have to admit i get some joy from your horrible timing.

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

could someone post something else about how haitian's are all f'd up so we shouldn't do anything for them?

i don't know why but seeing stupid f'd up people use a disaster to kick the crap out of a dying society cheers me up.

i worry i've become a misanthrope. but i have to admit i get some joy from your horrible timing.

It seems like you've shed a few tears over it.

Nahhh...you're just being dramatic for the hell of it...after all California is full of failed actors.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It seems like you've shed a few tears over it.

Nahhh...you're just being dramatic for the hell of it...after all California is full of failed actors.

no tears coach. i'm pretty cynical about human nature and usually expect the worst.

it's just that when i think it's impossible for people to sink lower, they usually do. as was the case with the advocacy here to send haiti a giant middle finger as the primary relief package.

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

no tears coach. i'm pretty cynical about human nature and usually expect the worst.

it's just that when i think it's impossible for people to sink lower, they usually do. as was the case with the advocacy here to send haiti a giant middle finger as the primary relief package.

Hey but it gives you another opportunity for you to feel better about yourself. And we all love when you put the smug on 10.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Hey but it gives you another opportunity for you to feel better about yourself. And we all love when you put the smug on 10.

exactly. and what with massachusettes going republican, i needed something to cheer myself up. i'm glad you understand.

Hey no problem. It's not like the good ol' U.S. and A is not going to waste hundreds of millions helping the people of Haiti.

It would, however, be a nice change of pace to make Aristide foot the bill. Being as how he basically stole over $800 million. But nah...we're a country full of sissies and suckers.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

could someone post something else about how haitian's are all f'd up so we shouldn't do anything for them?

i don't know why but seeing stupid f'd up people use a disaster to kick the crap out of a dying society cheers me up.

i worry i've become a misanthrope. but i have to admit i get some joy from your horrible timing.

I agree with you lets get our people out and the hell with Haiti. Where were they when 9/11 happened and what about Hurricane Katrina. Im sure they were looting in the streets in thier country. If i was on a boat and saw some Haitians trying to illegally enter our country I would make sure that whatever they are floating on capsizes. Why should our taxpaying money go to helping others out when we have American citizens who cant afford to buy food and clothing and are living on the streets. America needs to take care of Americans first. I also wish this countries leaders would tell the UN where to go. The UN is one of the biggest if not the biggest waste of an organization there is. All they do is cry USA please help us out. Who is supplying most of the peace keeping troops? What about giving the most aid? Someone tell me has the UN done anything?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you lets get our people out and the hell with Haiti. Where were they when 9/11 happened and what about Hurricane Katrina. Im sure they were looting in the streets in thier country. If i was on a boat and saw some Haitians trying to illegally enter our country I would make sure that whatever they are floating on capsizes. Why should our taxpaying money go to helping others out when we have American citizens who cant afford to buy food and clothing and are living on the streets. America needs to take care of Americans first. I also wish this countries leaders would tell the UN where to go. The UN is one of the biggest if not the biggest waste of an organization there is. All they do is cry USA please help us out. Who is supplying most of the peace keeping troops? What about giving the most aid? Someone tell me has the UN done anything?

here's an analogy for you. you come to thanksgiving dinner, you and everyone else brings a dish. but your cousin, who lost his job and can't afford much doesn't bring anything. you tell him he can't eat? i apologize if that's a poor analogy, but i think your argument that 'haiti did nothing' etc, is absolutely ridiculous. what exactly is it that you think they should have done for us following 9-11 or katrina? these people can't help themselves, but you expect them to help us? we don't need anyone else's help. that would be like bill gates having his hand out at the salvation army. but, luckily for us who were lucky enough to be born in this country, we have the ability to help out others when they need it. i don't begrudge what aid we can send, nor should we stoop to the lesser amounts others give. we're better than that. there are other, more wasteful ways that the govt blows my money that i take great offense to. this i do not. those poor bastards had the great misfortune to be born in a place with 80% unemployment and no hope for better. now, they suffer this, and you're complaining? why don't you go to your sink right now, and poor yourself a glass of water-and thank your lucky stars that you could do that without a thought. they can't.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you lets get our people out and the hell with Haiti. Where were they when 9/11 happened and what about Hurricane Katrina. Im sure they were looting in the streets in thier country. If i was on a boat and saw some Haitians trying to illegally enter our country I would make sure that whatever they are floating on capsizes. Why should our taxpaying money go to helping others out when we have American citizens who cant afford to buy food and clothing and are living on the streets. America needs to take care of Americans first. I also wish this countries leaders would tell the UN where to go. The UN is one of the biggest if not the biggest waste of an organization there is. All they do is cry USA please help us out. Who is supplying most of the peace keeping troops? What about giving the most aid? Someone tell me has the UN done anything?

I disagree with many here who are Republicans like you are and that's cool. It's what makes America what it is. But I just feel sorry for you that you don't have a bone of empathy in your body for those not as fortunate as us...especially children. You were in the service...did you travel around the World and see what these poor kids are born into? You would really dump a boatload of Haitian refugees in the ocean?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I disagree with many here who are Republicans like you are and that's cool. It's what makes America what it is. But I just feel sorry for you that you don't have a bone of empathy in your body for those not as fortunate as us...especially children. You were in the service...did you travel around the World and see what these poor kids are born into? You would really dump a boatload of Haitian refugees in the ocean?

I do feel for the children. They aren't the ones looting.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I do feel for the children. They aren't the ones looting.

How would you react to a situation where you had no food ,no water, no work and children that were dying due to starvation and dehydration? Would you stand by and watch them die or do things that you never would consider doing? It is easy to pass judgement sitting where we are but it is desperation down there like none have ever seen.

[Danzig]

i saw yesterday they are saying 200k dead...and now a 6.1 earthquake has hit. 1.5 million people are homeless. they had nothing, and now they have even less.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34830229...news-americas/

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Someone tell me has the UN done anything?

You mean other than try to pull their dead peacekeepers out of their headquarters in Haiti? Yeah - the lucky one's that were not trapped continue their job in the face of that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60T23I20100130

Lock them up for at least 5 years.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean other than try to pull their dead peacekeepers out of their headquarters in Haiti? Yeah - the lucky one's that were not trapped continue their job in the face of that.

I will give you that one. Name me something else they have done worth a crap. Its a shame the USA is the keeper of the world especially when hardly anyone else helps out when the USA is in need. Where were all these other countries when Katrina and Ike hit? This country needs to start care of our own instead of giving all these other countries handouts.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I will give you that one. Name me something else they have done worth a crap. Its a shame the USA is the keeper of the world especially when hardly anyone else helps out when the USA is in need. Where were all these other countries when Katrina and Ike hit? This country needs to start care of our own instead of giving all these other countries handouts.

Wow - I had no idea: read this about the foreign aid offered by many, many countries after Katrina. It's huge!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ricane_Katrina

Unfortunately, there is this note, after the lists of countries, and what they offered, too:

Actual funds used

An article in the April 29, 2007 Washington Post claimed that of the $854 million offered by foreign countries, whom the article dubs "allies," to the US Government, only $40 million of the funds had been spent "for disaster victims or reconstruction" as of the date of publication (less than 5%).[49]

Additionally, a large portion of the $854 million in aid offered went uncollected, including over $400 million in oil (almost 50%).[49]

[Cannon Shell]

If there is ever a disaster in Hungary we should make sure we get them thier 5 grand back

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow - I had no idea: read this about the foreign aid offered by many, many countries after Katrina. It's huge!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ricane_Katrina

Unfortunately, there is this note, after the lists of countries, and what they offered, too:

Interesting reading. Where is Haiti at on the lis?. Another noticable country missing from the list is Somalia. Thats right they offered no help. Yet thier getting all this help. At least now there are less AIDS infested people to worry about and less Haitians trying to enter this country illegally. I know Haitians arent the only one's trying to enter this country illegally. Looking at the list some countries promised relief in money but did they actually keep thier word about. As far Chavez I dont trust him one bit.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you lets get our people out and the hell with Haiti. Where were they when 9/11 happened and what about Hurricane Katrina. Im sure they were looting in the streets in thier country. If i was on a boat and saw some Haitians trying to illegally enter our country I would make sure that whatever they are floating on capsizes. Why should our taxpaying money go to helping others out when we have American citizens who cant afford to buy food and clothing and are living on the streets. America needs to take care of Americans first. I also wish this countries leaders would tell the UN where to go. The UN is one of the biggest if not the biggest waste of an organization there is. All they do is cry USA please help us out. Who is supplying most of the peace keeping troops? What about giving the most aid? Someone tell me has the UN done anything?

are you serious???

just remember, what goes around comes around. i wouldnt mess with karma like that!