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I agree and Baltimore is a lot better then a six seed, I already bet them next week on Sportsbook, I love having 6.5 locked in, the people will bet the Ravens.

Although he did like the Cards today.
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Although he did like the Cards today.

if the unthinkable happens and the bolts and colts go down , do you know who hosts the afc championship game , i do
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if the unthinkable happens and the bolts and colts go down , do you know who hosts the afc championship game , i do
Easy Rex, why don't you handle the Bolts first, then worry about where you are goning to play the AFC tittle game.
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Easy Rex, why don't you handle the Bolts first, then worry about where you are goning to play the AFC tittle game.

gotta be able to dream Matt , in all honesty i would rather go 3 games on the road a la the giants , the pressure at home in front of that crowd would be too much in my opinion , i would rather see the jets play in balt , but , you gotta take what the seedings give you
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Easy Rex, why don't you handle the Bolts first, then worry about where you are goning to play the AFC tittle game.

gotta be able to dream Matt , in all honesty i would rather go 3 games on the road a la the giants , the pressure at home in front of that crowd would be too much in my opinion , i would rather see the jets play in balt , but , you gotta take what the seedings give you
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gotta be able to dream Matt , in all honesty i would rather go 3 games on the road a la the giants , the pressure at home in front of that crowd would be too much in my opinion , i would rather see the jets play in balt , but , you gotta take what the seedings give you
I honestly think they match up better vs the Colts. The Ravens are like a carbon copy of the Jets, but with a better more seasoned QB (although Sanchez played very well Sat.) The are both smash mouth running, good defenive teams.
But let them get there first, I think San Diego is a very tough match up for them. But who knows. I've said that I think that they have a team that could go to the Super Bowl if Sanchez doesn't implode. It's one down two to go till Miami.
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I honestly think they match up better vs the Colts. The Ravens are like a carbon copy of the Jets, but with a better more seasoned QB (although Sanchez played very well Sat.) The are both smash mouth running, good defenive teams.
But let them get there first, I think San Diego is a very tough match up for them. But who knows. I've said that I think that they have a team that could go to the Super Bowl if Sanchez doesn't implode. It's one down two to go till Miami.
I respect your opinion, but I don't understand why people say this a tough matchup for the Jets other than the fact SD has won 11 in a row. The Jets have the best pass D in the NFL to match up w/Rivers and a one-dimensional Charger offense. Revis will make Jackson a nonfactor (Gates worries me, but Rhodes did a good job on Gonzalez) and the Jets got gashed by the Bengals on the ground, while SD has no running game whatsoever. Their defense also can't stop the run, so it seems unlikely that Sanchez is suddenly going to have to throw for 300 yards. It's hard to be very confident going up against a red-hot team like them, but I don't think anything about the matchup is particularly difficult.
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I respect your opinion, but I don't understand why people say this a tough matchup for the Jets other than the fact SD has won 11 in a row. The Jets have the best pass D in the NFL to match up w/Rivers and a one-dimensional Charger offense. Revis will make Jackson a nonfactor (Gates worries me, but Rhodes did a good job on Gonzalez) and the Jets got gashed by the Bengals on the ground, while SD has no running game whatsoever. Their defense also can't stop the run, so it seems unlikely that Sanchez is suddenly going to have to throw for 300 yards. It's hard to be very confident going up against a red-hot team like them, but I don't think anything about the matchup is particularly difficult.
I think the Chargers are the toughest match-up for the Jets. If Revis neutralizes Jackson the Chargers still have big physical receivers that will give the rest of the Jet secondary trouble. Rivers throws the most deep balls in the league and is one of the best at it and Floyd, Naanee, and Gates are all tough match-ups. The play I think will hurt the aggressive Jet D the most is the screen which SD does well. That being said you still have the Norv Turner factor on your side. Good Luck.
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I respect your opinion, but I don't understand why people say this a tough matchup for the Jets other than the fact SD has won 11 in a row. The Jets have the best pass D in the NFL to match up w/Rivers and a one-dimensional Charger offense. Revis will make Jackson a nonfactor (Gates worries me, but Rhodes did a good job on Gonzalez) and the Jets got gashed by the Bengals on the ground, while SD has no running game whatsoever. Their defense also can't stop the run, so it seems unlikely that Sanchez is suddenly going to have to throw for 300 yards. It's hard to be very confident going up against a red-hot team like them, but I don't think anything about the matchup is particularly difficult.
I don't think of them as one dimensional. I just don't think that they are a running team anymore. They have transformed in to an effencient passing team. No arguement about Revis, who ever he covers will most likely have a quiet day. But Rivers (who I believe has started the transformation into a top tier QB, he is extremley smart and doesn't make many mistakes) has other options and I believe he will be able to take advantage of the very agressive Jets Defense. 3 Kings mentioned Sproles and I believe that he will neutralize the Jets blitz to an extent. Also try to play with the lead, they fell behind to the Bengals and stormed right back. But you can't really compare the 2, the Bengals aren't running away with anything, while the Bolts will run you right out the building.

But once again it really comes down to Sanchez and the offense. Long drives, moving the ball and not turning it over. He/they were excellent on both sides of the ball against what seemed to be a very offensively lacking Bengals team. They bent a bit with Benson but never broke. And the passing game just never felt like they were going to be a threat (especially with Ocho stuck on Revis island).

The Jets scored 24 this week in what was almost a perfect offensive performance. Obviously the weather will be much better this week, but you would think the gameplan will be similar. 24 points gives them an excellent shot to win this game, realistically if they score 24 they should win. Can they repeat or be even better than last week performance against what I percieve to be a much better and very well rested Chargers team, we'll see. But Gang Green is cooking right now and playing with lots of confidence. I have said all along that the only thing that could stop the Jets from making a run is Sanchez. He was excellent last week, but I'm sticking with that theory.

One more side note.....I usually don't read too much into betting lines, but it seems like Vegas is begging you to bet the Jets getting 8 1/2 in the paper. It just seems a bit high to me.
Hoping it's a good game, good luck to you Jets fans. I would say that I'm rooting for you guys, but you all know that it would be a lie. But Good Luck anyway.
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I respect your opinion, but I don't understand why people say this a tough matchup for the Jets other than the fact SD has won 11 in a row. The Jets have the best pass D in the NFL to match up w/Rivers and a one-dimensional Charger offense. Revis will make Jackson a nonfactor (Gates worries me, but Rhodes did a good job on Gonzalez) and the Jets got gashed by the Bengals on the ground, while SD has no running game whatsoever. Their defense also can't stop the run, so it seems unlikely that Sanchez is suddenly going to have to throw for 300 yards. It's hard to be very confident going up against a red-hot team like them, but I don't think anything about the matchup is particularly difficult.
I'm going to think the opposite as the Chargers gang up on the run to dare Sanchez to beat them.

Don't sell the Chargers short on stopping the run: NERD ALERT!!!

During the 11 game streak, the SD defense has allowed an average of 107 yds per game while only allowing a total of 4 TD's on the ground. 107 average ranks them 8th in the league in that timespan. They tightened the ship since the lousy start to the season. Plus they allowed a total average of 228 yds per game in that span. That's better than the Jets 247 yds per game in the same span.
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if the unthinkable happens and the bolts and colts go down , do you know who hosts the afc championship game , i do
I dont think its unthinkable, even though this is a super tough matchup for the Jets, I dont see why Baltimore cant beat the Colts, what do you think?
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I dont think its unthinkable, even though this is a super tough matchup for the Jets, I dont see why Baltimore cant beat the Colts, what do you think?

2 of the 4 dogs win outright next week at the minimum
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2 of the 4 dogs win outright next week at the minimum
I can actually see Arizona giving New Orleans trouble and Baltimore being a pain for Indianapolis. I think Dallas comes back down to earth and as much as I love the Rex Ryan and the Jets story (and I do) I think San Diego is going to humble them.

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I can actually see Arizona giving New Orleans trouble and Baltimore being a pain for Indianapolis. I think Dallas comes back down to earth and as much as I love the Rex Ryan and the Jets story (and I do) I think San Diego is going to humble them.

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You would think that Sean Peyton, will be drooling on himself while watching the tape of Aaron Rodgers dicing up that Cards secondary.
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You would think that Sean Peyton, will be drooling on himself while watching the tape of Aaron Rodgers dicing up that Cards secondary.

keep in mine AZ did all this today without Boldin
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You would think that Sean Peyton, will be drooling on himself while watching the tape of Aaron Rodgers dicing up that Cards secondary.
Certainly but I am of the mind that New Orleans' defense is going to be completely exposed.

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You would think that Sean Peyton, will be drooling on himself while watching the tape of Aaron Rodgers dicing up that Cards secondary.

i doubt it. he also watched kurt warner have a field day with the packs secondary-an issue with the saints. another high scoring game coming up.
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I can actually see Arizona giving New Orleans trouble and Baltimore being a pain for Indianapolis. I think Dallas comes back down to earth and as much as I love the Rex Ryan and the Jets story (and I do) I think San Diego is going to humble them.

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We are thinking a lot alike, well besides Arizona.
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