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Old 01-04-2010, 09:46 AM
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Bengals fan here - in case you missed it, they had nothing to play for last night and the game plan was very vanilla. 3 or 4 def. starters didn't play and they basically played base the whole game. I;m sure they'd rather play the Jets again than face a hot Texans team that already beat them at home.
The Jets had fire in their bellies and laid everyting on the line and on the table last night.
Rookie QB on the road in a first playoff game - I would take that as a Bengal fan. And considering the Jets were given the last 2 wins to even make the playoffs makes them a sketchy playoff team at best.
But, either way we will know come Saturday night.
I understand what you are saying about them really having nothing to play for, but with that being said they were absolutely dominated last night in every aspect. If they had no intentions of trying to move the ball/score then there was no reason for Palmer/Ochocinco even being out there. Maybe they kept it vanillia, but the fact that they couldn't move the ball at all isn't good.

I could see the game going either way next week, it's actually a good matchup for the Jets and I'm leaning that way (as painful as it for me to say that). You would think as long as the game stays close (I don't believe the Cincy is an offensive powerhouse) it means that Sanchez doesn't have to do that much throwing the ball (I guess you can say Edwards doesn't have to worry about catching it either) and thats good for the Jets. The only negative thing I think for the Jets is, that they played so so well last night and dominated the game so handily, that they might start looking past the Bengals on to possible 2nd round match ups. They really are a brash/cocky bunch (which isn't totally bad), but it's possible that they are thinking that they are going to waltz right past what looked to be an inept Bengals squad last night.

Joey, How cold was it there last night? I remember watching and thinking to myself that, maybe they should have put a dome on the new place. I'm sure the way they played took some of the edge out of the cold, it always does.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:25 AM
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I think it's pretty amazing that three of the four games are Week 17 re-matches..what are the odds of that?
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:35 AM
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I think it's pretty amazing that three of the four games are Week 17 re-matches..what are the odds of that?

nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




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1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:50 AM
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nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




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1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins
Why not? Isn't that what the NFL wants.....Parity.
Which is the quicker way for a NFL head coach to end up on the unemployment line?
Have your #1 seed team that played well the whole season lose in the playoffs?

Or to have your #1 seed team suffer a devestating injury in a meaningless week 17 game with nothing to play for?

I'm guessing that #2 will get you fired quicker. So until that reverses, I really don't see any big changes coming any time soon.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:58 AM
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Congrats to Jets fans on making the playoffs. At least for one round there will be a team other than the Pats to root against...
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Congrats to Jets fans on making the playoffs. At least for one round there will be a team other than the Pats to root against...

Now was that nice......

Good to see you Chuck HNY 2010!!
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Why not? Isn't that what the NFL wants.....Parity.
Which is the quicker way for a NFL head coach to end up on the unemployment line?
Have your #1 seed team that played well the whole season lose in the playoffs?

Or to have your #1 seed team suffer a devestating injury in a meaningless week 17 game with nothing to play for?

I'm guessing that #2 will get you fired quicker. So until that reverses, I really don't see any big changes coming any time soon.
The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?
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The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?
I really think that is more of an NBA issue. I really can't spot a game/team that has been dumping games to get a better draft spot. I think it has to do with job security and knowing that no one is really safe in this fair weather league.
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The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?

you can't

goodell has to impose penaltiies for all of this , i'm a jet fan , and in my heart i know the colts s/b 16-0 , but , their not , they coaches / gm pulled players and should be ashamed .....if they hadn't won a few yrs ago i could see it , but they got a super bowl 3 yrs ago .....play the starters and go for history

the worst thing to do is to pick who gets in and who doesn't .....the colts and bengals both picked who got into that 6th seed and wouldn't it be ironic if the jets beat them both again
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you can't

goodell has to impose penaltiies for all of this , i'm a jet fan , and in my heart i know the colts s/b 16-0 , but , their not , they coaches / gm pulled players and should be ashamed .....if they hadn't won a few yrs ago i could see it , but they got a super bowl 3 yrs ago .....play the starters and go for history

the worst thing to do is to pick who gets in and who doesn't .....the colts and bengals both picked who got into that 6th seed and wouldn't it be ironic if the jets beat them both again
I don't think the Bengals (or Colts for that matter) picked who they wanted. Give the Jets some credit, the Bengals on their best day wouldn't have won that game last night.
There is nothing that can be done about this situation. You just have to have that your club takes care of buisness early in the season and they are in the position to do what they want.
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nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




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1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins
Well the Packers and Cardinals certainly went opposite directions yesterday...we'll see how it pans out next week. Ironically, Card mailed it in and rested starters, but had three starters leave due to injury versus Packers who played all out for three quarters, but only had one injury.
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