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[The Indomitable DrugS]

The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.

where was maroney , the saints aren't exactly a team that stops the run like the 85 bears

bill should have run the ball with maroney more and kept his defense off the field

drugs whether moss does good or not , this defense is not carrying the pats anywhere this year

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by gales0678

where was maroney , the saints aren't exactly a team that stops the run like the 85 bears

Phony Maroney should be made to wear pink every single game ... not just for breast cancer awareness month.

He's my least favorite Patriots player. Remember - the ancient Fred Taylor was there money running rb before he got hurt.

Originally Posted by gales0678

bill should have run the ball with maroney more and kept his defense off the field

I picked up Maroney when Taylor went down in that fantasy leauge - he was a great fantasy pick up - like 6 straight weeks with a TD. He fumbles and he's a dancing pansy. He's an absolute liability. When they've had the lead late in games on the road - Maroney is worthless when teams are looking for the run.

drugs whether moss does good or not , this defense is not carrying the pats anywhere this year

This defense is the '85 Bears compared to every single defense Moss had in Minnesota.

[gales0678]

drugs the pats are regressing

maybe they get through the 1st round but do you really see them beating the colts and chargers in b2b weeks to get to the superbowl

i don't see it , heck the bungals could also beat them in the afc title game

don't forget the fish , jets , jags and ravens

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'd feel a lot more confident if they still had Richard Seymour.

Brady and Moss are both 1st ballot hall of famers ... I'm not sure if Seymour is but he damn sure should be.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'd feel a lot more confident if they still had Richard Seymour.

Brady and Moss are both 1st ballot hall of famers ... I'm not sure if Seymour is but he damn sure should be.

ah again as i said back to the defense

i just don't think this D can hold up for 3 straight games this Jan

[The Indomitable DrugS]

There is no defensive unit that outclasses them. Maybe eight or nine are a little better - but not by a whole lot.

This is easily the 3rd best defense Moss has ever had.

Clearly behind the 18-1 '07 Pats

And somewhat behind the 11-5 '08 Matt Cassell's

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.

Might want to learn how to spell the name of Moss's daddy. It's to the point where Revis Christ should make Moss hold the inside of his pocket and follow him to the bathroom.

And the Saints could've beaten the Pats rushing zero guys. They're an infinitely better team than New England.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

And the Saints could've beaten the Pats rushing zero guys. They're an infinitely better team than New England.

That game was as much a reflection of the Saints superiority over the Patriots as the 59-0 NE win over the Titans was a reflection of the Pats superiority over the Titans.

The Saints were infinitely better that night. They did things NE hasn't seen before .. and NE didn't adjust well to it offensively .. and defensively - they got abused.

The Saints needed three of the luckiest plays I've ever seen just to force overtime and beat the Redskins. Over the course of a year - every team has great performances and lousy ones.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That game was as much a reflection of the Saints superiority over the Patriots as the 59-0 NE win over the Titans was a reflection of the Pats superiority over the Titans.

The Saints were infinitely better that night. They did things NE hasn't seen before .. and NE didn't adjust well to it offensively .. and defensively - they got abused.

The Saints needed three of the luckiest plays I've ever seen just to force overtime and beat the Redskins. Over the course of a year - every team has great performances and lousy ones.

In case you haven't noticed, the Redskins have played way better of late. In the past five weeks, they've beaten the Broncos, lost heartbreakers on the road against Dallas and Philly, crushed Oakland and should've beaten New Orleans. It's a different team. You can't possibly think the Pats are even close to the Saints.

[gales0678]

[quote=ateamstupid]In case you haven't noticed, the Redskins have played way better of late. In the past five weeks, they've beaten the Broncos, lost heartbreakers on the road against Dallas and Philly, crushed Oakland and should've beaten New Orleans. It's a different team. You can't possibly think the Pats are even close to the Saints.[/QUOTE]


it doesn't matter about the saints , this defnese will not hold up for 3 games in jan joey

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

In case you haven't noticed, the Redskins have played way better of late. In the past five weeks, they've beaten the Broncos, lost heartbreakers on the road against Dallas and Philly, crushed Oakland and should've beaten New Orleans. It's a different team. You can't possibly think the Pats are even close to the Saints.

Gimme a break - the Pats were like a 1 point underdog in that game against the Saints - and it was a night game in New Orleans on Thanksgiving weekend.

Let's say the Saints played NE in NE next week ... I'm not so sure the Pats wouldn't be favored by a couple points.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gimme a break - the Pats were like a 1 point underdog in that game against the Saints - and it was a night game in New Orleans on Thanksgiving weekend.

Let's say the Saints played NE in NE next week ... I'm not so sure the Pats wouldn't be favored by a couple points.

pats would be favored over any team in the nfl dec/jan in foxboro becuase the $$$ would dictate that , remember vegas wants 50/50 action so they can collect the vig

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gimme a break - the Pats were like a 1 point underdog in that game against the Saints - and it was a night game in New Orleans on Thanksgiving weekend.

Let's say the Saints played NE in NE next week ... I'm not so sure the Pats wouldn't be favored by a couple points.

Who gives a sh it what the spread was or if it was Thanksgiving? What does that have to do with anything when the Pats got massacred and have looked just as terrible since? Trust me, if the Saints are laying 7 1/2 to the Vegas darlings this week, there's no way in hell they'd be underdogs against a team that was just life and death to beat the Panthers at home.

Even if they were somehow underdogs, again that's irrelevant. The Pats are total pretenders buddy. Even the Massholes at Pats Pulpit and Bill Simmons realize this.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

there's no way in hell they'd be underdogs against a team that was just life and death to beat the Panthers at home.

Weren't the Panthers like the NFC's #1 or #2 seed last year? They don't have a bad defense ... Jake the Turnover machine is the reason why their record isn't so hot. He didn't play.

Anyway - the Pats are 18-0 at home when both Brady and Moss play. They beat the living piss out of Arizona in the snow with Cassell last year - and they beat Tenneesse 59-0 - in what some suggested might have been the most statistically lopsided game in NFL history - during an unexpected snow storm this year.

If you think a dome team from both the NFC and the South is going to come into New England at this time of the year and be a favored in the betting ... you're crazy.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

In case you haven't noticed, the Redskins have played way better of late.

Sorry man. I couldn't resist.