Warm THIS!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

The climate always changes, yes. Unfortunately the worldwide industrial revolution has screwed things up a bit, in an additive effect. Nobody is trying to end climate change, it can't be done. But we can stop accelerating our addition to it, in the hope that places like the Florida Keys will still be above ocean level, and habitable, in 40-50 years.

Under the "adapt and improvise" part, we'll unfortunately have to see many, many people die, and many species die. Visit the Maldives now if you wanna see it

How did the Florida Keys become Keys in the first place , didnt some sort of climate change have something to do with the fact they are no longer connected to the mainland?
Im sorry that I dont think there is alot we are going to do about cliamte change , it happens , its the progression of things.
People who live in area's that are at sea level or under it like New Orleans and Charleston are inviting the ocean to come and swallow them up.
How is it that the Maldives became islands anyway ??? Wasn't there some sort of climate or geological change that occured to cause them to become islands in the first place?
So let me ask you something , how is it that alot of climate changes have happened long before there was an industrial age on earth ? How did the ice age happen in the first place ? How was it that the whole earth was flooded by water ? These are just random questions I have to the people who say us humans(and cows farting) are the demise of everything.

[Crown@club]

Observer1: "What did you do today?"
Worker: "I cut down a tree."
Observer1: "You dumb SOB!!!!"

Observer2: "What did you do today?"
Worker: "I planted a tree today."
Observer2: "You dumb SOB!!!!"

I blame John Froelich. That dumb SOB and his creation of using gasoline in Farm Tractors. He created this mess......blah.......blah.blah.......blah.blah.

[Riot]

I think most people realize the world is in a warming period, as far as the history of the planet earth goes. Nobody disputes this that I have ever seen.

I also think most people realize that things like car, factory, airplane exhaust pollutes our air and water; and also that man has directly killed off species (for example, we shot all the millions of passenger pigeons in the world, there are none left, gone forever) The Colorado River no longer runs to the sea.

It's obvious that man can permanently change his environment. We've already done it.

This has mainly only occurred in the last couple hundred years of the earth's history, as the industrial revolution and the worlds population of humans has exploded exponentially.

Life on earth (man's involvement) was very different 300 years ago than it is now.

The hard part for some is taking the knowledge that we can pollute and change our environment and kill off species, and expanding that to believe that our actions can permanently change, not only our local environments, but the environment of the entire planet. That is a big concept to wrap around.

All I can say is read up on it, see pictures of it. Even if you read it or watch it with a grain of salt, see what "is".

http://environment.nationalgeographi...lobal-warming/

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think most people realize the world is in a warming period, as far as the history of the planet earth goes. Nobody disputes this that I have ever seen.

I also think most people realize that things like car, factory, airplane exhaust pollutes our air and water; and also that man has directly killed off species (for example, we shot all the millions of passenger pigeons in the world, there are none left, gone forever) The Colorado River no longer runs to the sea.

It's obvious that man can permanently change his environment. We've already done it.

This has mainly only occurred in the last couple hundred years of the earth's history, as the industrial revolution and the worlds population of humans has exploded exponentially.

Life on earth (man's involvement) was very different 300 years ago than it is now.

The hard part for some is taking the knowledge that we can pollute and change our environment and kill off species, and expanding that to believe that our actions can permanently change, not only our local environments, but the environment of the entire planet. That is a big concept to wrap around.

All I can say is read up on it, see pictures of it. Even if you read it or watch it with a grain of salt, see what "is".

http://environment.nationalgeographi...lobal-warming/

i do believe in global warming to a certain degree. I even believe that man could have SOME impact (though I think it is a VERY small amount).. i mean, do you want to lock yourself in your garage with your car running? NO of course not. It cant exactly be great for the enviroment. I am completely against cap and trade and quick mr fix its that will tax people insane amounts.

I also have no clue why in 2009 we are so dependant on oil. We have so much technology out there to rely on other resources. You can blame the democrats for the lack of nuclear energy in this country. So its kind of hypocritical of them now.

And the reason I wish we werent dependant on oil has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with feeding the middle east tons of cash.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I also have no clue why in 2009 we are so dependant on oil. We have so much technology out there to rely on other resources. You can blame the democrats for the lack of nuclear energy in this country. So its kind of hypocritical of them now.
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Exactly talk about creating jobs now and doing something useful but that makes too much sense for scientists whose lives rely on this BS in the form of grants.

And to grow ANYTHING don't you need CO2? Wouldn't polar ice caps melting provide more water and not less for farmlands or in the 'land of Gore' does ice evaporate faster that water?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Exactly talk about creating jobs now and doing something useful but that makes too much sense for scientists whose lives rely on this BS in the form of grants.

And to grow ANYTHING don't you need CO2? Wouldn't polar ice caps melting provide more water and not less for farmlands or in the 'land of Gore' does ice evaporate faster that water?

i didn't think it would be possible but you are actually giving timm a run for the money.

keep it up. you could wind up the new poster child for dumb.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i didn't think it would be possible but you are actually giving timm a run for the money.

keep it up. you could wind up the new poster child for dumb.

take Riot off your Iggy list. She's earned the title and I have about as much chance at beating her as I would playing 18 against Tiger 'the ladies man' Woods.

Do nuclear plants build and run themselves where your from? I'm already confident they do in Riot's world.

[Riot]

Exactly talk about creating jobs now and doing something useful but that makes too much sense for scientists whose lives rely on this BS in the form of grants.

The scientists whose lives rely on this have been encouraging the formation of "green" jobs for years and years.

And to grow ANYTHING don't you need CO2? Wouldn't polar ice caps melting provide more water and not less for farmlands or in the 'land of Gore' does ice evaporate faster that water?

You need to learn some basics about science and climate change. Go read the instructional materials for grade school kids and get back to us.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The scientists whose lives rely on this have been encouraging the formation of "green" jobs for years and years.



You need to learn some basics about science and climate change. Go read the instructional materials for grade school kids and get back to us.

tell us more about your friends who have medical insurance but silll pay out-of-pocket

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think most people realize the world is in a warming period, as far as the history of the planet earth goes. Nobody disputes this that I have ever seen.

I also think most people realize that things like car, factory, airplane exhaust pollutes our air and water; and also that man has directly killed off species (for example, we shot all the millions of passenger pigeons in the world, there are none left, gone forever) The Colorado River no longer runs to the sea.

It's obvious that man can permanently change his environment. We've already done it.

This has mainly only occurred in the last couple hundred years of the earth's history, as the industrial revolution and the worlds population of humans has exploded exponentially.

Life on earth (man's involvement) was very different 300 years ago than it is now.

The hard part for some is taking the knowledge that we can pollute and change our environment and kill off species, and expanding that to believe that our actions can permanently change, not only our local environments, but the environment of the entire planet. That is a big concept to wrap around.

All I can say is read up on it, see pictures of it. Even if you read it or watch it with a grain of salt, see what "is".

http://environment.nationalgeographi...lobal-warming/

The light bulb was invented 140 years ago

[SOREHOOF]

The debate is over. It's a hoax. HELLO?

[Honu]

Riot said, "It's obvious that man can permanently change his environment. We've already done it."

"This has mainly only occurred in the last couple hundred years of the earth's history, as the industrial revolution and the worlds population of humans has exploded exponentially."

"Under the "adapt and improvise" part, we'll unfortunately have to see many, many people die, and many species die."



So maybe survival of the fittest is a good thing. I mean if there are too many humans and animals using and abusing the earth if some of them are culled out by climate changes wouldnt that be better all the way around?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

So maybe survival of the fittest is a good thing. I mean if there are too many humans and animals using and abusing the earth if some of them are culled out by climate changes wouldnt that be better all the way around?

Well, there will be alot of culling, both human and animal. Better? We'll see.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, there will be alot of culling, both human and animal. Better? We'll see.

Well maybe at first some peoples and animals will be missed but over time just like it has always been we will get over it. We will forget about what used to be and move forward.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

So let me ask you something , how is it that alot of climate changes have happened long before there was an industrial age on earth ? How did the ice age happen in the first place ? How was it that the whole earth was flooded by water ? These are just random questions I have to the people who say us humans(and cows farting) are the demise of everything.

Climate change HAS happened before us, and it will happen while we are here, and after we are gone.

The trouble is, as it is happening, we are accelerating it, adding to it, tipping and influencing the normal balance, at an alarming rate.

We as a species have become so numerous on the planet, and our industrial actions so widespread across the entire earth, that we are influencing the very climate of the entire planet. And it's not in a way that will benefit us in the long run.

It's hard to believe, that one species can influence the entire planet. Yes, it is hard to believe.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Climate change HAS happened before us, and it will happen while we are here, and after we are gone.

The trouble is, as it is happening, we are accelerating it, adding to it, tipping and influencing the normal balance, at an alarming rate.

We as a species have become so numerous on the planet, and our industrial actions so widespread across the entire earth, that we are influencing the very climate of the entire planet. And it's not in a way that will benefit us in the long run.

It's hard to believe, that one species can influence the entire planet. Yes, it is hard to believe.

Who influenced it before we were here and were industrialized? I know we may influence it but to say that someone can predict when the polar ice caps are going to melt but cant predict the weather 7 days in advance is a little much for me.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Climate change HAS happened before us, and it will happen while we are here, and after we are gone.

The trouble is, as it is happening, we are accelerating it, adding to it, tipping and influencing the normal balance, at an alarming rate.

We as a species have become so numerous on the planet, and our industrial actions so widespread across the entire earth, that we are influencing the very climate of the entire planet. And it's not in a way that will benefit us in the long run.

It's hard to believe, that one species can influence the entire planet. Yes, it is hard to believe.

Why is it hard to believe? We are the only species with competent brains. (well some of us)