Tiger Woods seriously injured

[GPK]

Average driving distance is the most useless stat on tour. They only use 1 hole one each nine to compute the average. It never takes into account downwind, in to the wind or any other variables.

What many people fail to realize is that when Tiger was REALLY LONG in his younger days, he was using a 43" steel shaft driver. He could have easily hit it another 20-30 yards using a 45-46" graphite shaft driver, but then he really would have been hitting it all over the course. As you both know, the ball has changed radically the past 10-15 years and I think that has as much to do with that technology more than anything. Tiger could hit the ball on average A LOT further than he does if he wanted to. That NIKE ONE golf ball is horrible IMO. I think it's easily a good 8-12 yards shorter than the Callaway ix, Pro V1 or Srixon V-Star.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

Average driving distance is the most useless stat on tour. They only use 1 hole one each nine to compute the average. It never takes into account downwind, in to the wind or any other variables.

What many people fail to realize is that when Tiger was REALLY LONG in his younger days, he was using a 43" steel shaft driver. He could have easily hit it another 20-30 yards using a 45-46" graphite shaft driver, but then he really would have been hitting it all over the course. As you both know, the ball has changed radically the past 10-15 years and I think that has as much to do with that technology more than anything. Tiger could hit the ball on average A LOT further than he does if he wanted to. That NIKE ONE golf ball is horrible IMO. I think it's easily a good 8-12 yards shorter than the Callaway ix, Pro V1 or Srixon V-Star.

kev he used to swing out of his shoes , some of those drives in the us am were going 350 with the steel shaft driver , he doesn't try to hit it anywhere close to that today

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

kev he used to swing out of his shoes , some of those drives in the us am were going 350 with the steel shaft driver , he doesn't try to hit it anywhere close to that today

He doesn't need to because technology allows him to still hit it pretty far without swinging so hard. You know as well as I do, if he NEEDS to hit it that far, he can. The stat that impresses me the most about Tiger is his ball speed. 190mph+ coming off the clubface...thats absurd Marty.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

He doesn't need to because technology allows him to still hit it pretty far without swinging so hard. You know as well as I do, if he NEEDS to hit it that far, he can. The stat that impresses me the most about Tiger is his ball speed. 190mph+ coming off the clubface...thats absurd Marty.

agreed

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

agreed

I was on the Titleist launch moniter once and I was around 145 mph on average and a couple got to 150.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

I was on the Titleist launch moniter once and I was around 145 mph on average and a couple got to 150.

what was annika's ball speed ?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

what was annika's ball speed ?

I have no idea. When you hit it that damn straight, it doesn't matter a great deal.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by GPK

He doesn't need to because technology allows him to still hit it pretty far without swinging so hard. You know as well as I do, if he NEEDS to hit it that far, he can. The stat that impresses me the most about Tiger is his ball speed. 190mph+ coming off the clubface...thats absurd Marty.

Do you think anything else goes into that stat other than clubhead speed and technology? Just curious. . .

[GPK]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Do you think anything else goes into that stat other than clubhead speed and technology? Just curious. . .

Not really. I mean, every club company is taking advantage of all the max limits that the USGA has set, .830 COR being the main factor. 460CC clubheads maybe play a small part. 5900 MOI isn't playing much part in ball speed (that is more for less twisting of the clubhead at impact). People were raving when the 07 Taylor Made Burner came out about how far they were hitting it...well no ****, its anywhere from 3/4"-1" longer in the shaft than most drivers that people were hitting and that equates to greater clubhead speed, hence more distance.

The golf ball plays the biggest part in the distance explosion. Lighter, more consistent shafts help as well, but mainly the ball.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Not really. I mean, every club company is taking advantage of all the max limits that the USGA has set, .830 COR being the main factor. 460CC clubheads maybe play a small part. 5900 MOI isn't playing much part in ball speed (that is more for less twisting of the clubhead at impact). People were raving when the 07 Taylor Made Burner came out about how far they were hitting it...well no ****, its anywhere from 3/4"-1" longer in the shaft than most drivers that people were hitting and that equates to greater clubhead speed, hence more distance.

The golf ball plays the biggest part in the distance explosion. Lighter, more consistent shafts help as well, but mainly the ball.

I know the technology has improved but do you personally hit the ball 20 yards longer now than you did in 1997?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I know the technology has improved but do you personally hit the ball 20 yards longer now than you did in 1997?

Not a chance

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I know the technology has improved but do you personally hit the ball 20 yards longer now than you did in 1997?

I do and I was a much better golfer in '97 than I am now. Strictly because of the ball, I played the Titleist Professional back then versus the Pro V1 or Maxfli Revolution now, it's simply a better ball.