Tiger Woods seriously injured

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think he gained all that weight in one year. I think it was over the course of about 5-10 years.

As you said, knowing the competitive nature of these top athletes, and knowing how many of them have used performance-enhancing drugs, I really don't think it is far-fetched to suspect that Tiger used HGH or something of that nature, especially now that we know he is linked to that doctor from Canada.

It's kind of unfortunate that there is so much cheating in this day and age that we suspect alot of people that may in fact be innocent. I obviously have no idea whether Tiger has used HGH or anything like that. But when you consider his weight gain and you consider that he was using that Canadian doctor, it is hard not to be somewhat suspicious.

He definitely didn't gain 25 pounds in a year - I was just responding to what Antitrust said.

Muscle/strength as it relates to golf is an interesting thing.

Rickie Fowler (who I already can't stand) weighs something like 135 lbs. and averaged 301 yards with the driver (10th on tour) in the few events he played. Flexibility, swing mechanics, and height are just as important if not more important than strength when it comes to hitting it far. The key, obviously, is to find the perfect balance between muscularity and flexibility.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He definitely didn't gain 25 pounds in a year - I was just responding to what Antitrust said.

Muscle/strength as it relates to golf is an interesting thing.

Rickie Fowler (who I already can't stand) weighs something like 135 lbs. and averaged 301 yards with the driver (10th on tour) in the few events he played. Flexibility, swing mechanics, and height are just as important if not more important than strength when it comes to hitting it far. The key, obviously, is to find the perfect balance between muscularity and flexibility.

College and High School football players gain 25 lbs of muscle in a year all the time. Thats what I said. Shoot sometimes even the men in the pro's you see massive body changes in a few months off season.

Of course Tiger didnt gain it in a year. And all 25 lbs he's gained over the past year might not even be all muscle. All these articles talk about how much he drinks.. thats an easy non-muscle weight gainer there!

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

College and High School football players gain 25 lbs of muscle in a year all the time. Thats what I said. Shoot sometimes even the men in the pro's you see massive body changes in a few months off season.

Of course Tiger didnt gain it in a year. And all 25 lbs he's gained over the past year might not even be all muscle. All these articles talk about how much he drinks.. thats an easy non-muscle weight gainer there!

I'm not sure you understand the difference between gaining 25 pounds of muscle and simply gaining 25 pounds.

Proper bodybuilding includes two cycles - bulking and cutting. When you bulk you might gain 25 pounds or more, but a significant portion of that is going to be fat because you're basically consuming as many calories as possible (mostly in an effort to consume large amounts of protein). You can't simply put on muscle without putting on fat, unless you're an ectomorph (a.k.a. "hard gainer") and if you're an ectomorph you're never, ever going to naturally gain 25 pounds of muscle in a relatively short amount of time. Once you've bulked, you have to cut in order to get rid of the excess weight you've gained.

I guess if you're going through an extreme growth spurt or puberty (added testoterone) you have a chance to gain more, but if you think college-aged or professional athletes are gaining 25 lbs. of lean muscle naturally over the course of a year you're naive.

[Antitrust32]

Most High School and College Football players ARE going through puberty.

I dont know, I just did a lot of searches and it says its possible.

The articles basically said dont expect to gain more than 25 lbs of muscle unless of a puberty situation in a year.

But realistically a mature adult can gain 10-15 lbs muscle in a year with the right training programs and calorie intake. They may gain 25-30 total with that 15 lbs muscle cause its not all muscle.

[hockey2315]

College football players aren't going through puberty, but this is a pointless argument anyways.

[Gander]

I think the only point is Tiger Wood's physique/muscular gains could have easily occured without taking any supplements. Hes not that big and hes always been very athletic and maintained a hard work ethic. I'm sure he works with some of the smartest trainers in the business and his gains are very modest in comparison with some of the guys in the NBA and NFL in that same age group.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He definitely didn't gain 25 pounds in a year - I was just responding to what Antitrust said.

Muscle/strength as it relates to golf is an interesting thing.

Rickie Fowler (who I already can't stand) weighs something like 135 lbs. and averaged 301 yards with the driver (10th on tour) in the few events he played. Flexibility, swing mechanics, and height are just as important if not more important than strength when it comes to hitting it far. The key, obviously, is to find the perfect balance between muscularity and flexibility.

Fowler is an extreme exception to the rule. Over the years, almost all of the slighter built players such as Pavin, Sluman, Pernice, Willie Wood, etc. are short hitters relative to the other pros on the PGA Tour.

By the way, why don't you like Fowler? I really like him. He looks like an exciting, young prospect. He's the kind of guy that will add some excitment to the game. Right now there are too many of those Robo-pros with no personality out there.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Fowler is an extreme exception to the rule. Over the years, almost all of the slighter built players such as Pavin, Sluman, Pernice, Willie Wood, etc. are short hitters relative to the other pros on the PGA Tour.

By the way, why don't you like Fowler? I really like him. He looks like an exciting, young prospect. He's the kind of guy that will add some excitment to the game. Right now there are too many of those Robo-pros with no personality out there.

Seems like a bit of a d-bag to me.

I'll take McIlroy over him any day.