McLaughlin with 3 positives; Gets 30 day ban..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I'm not deflecting anything. I frequently find it unnecessary to elaborate inappropriately on these medication topics. I'm sorry if you don't like how I handle it at times. I'm in a difficult position when it comes to discussing it.

Who has Satash Sanan been speaking with on Tuesdays? It seems on Tuesday's between 5 and 6pm you are appauled (as you should be) with the abuse of performance enhancing meds?

Let's just pick winners from now on, that's safe and doesnt put anyone in a tough spot..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Who has Satash Sanan been speaking with on Tuesdays? It seems on Tuesday's between 5 and 6pm you are appauled (as you should be) with the abuse of performance enhancing meds?

Let's just pick winners from now on, that's safe and doesnt put anyone in a tough spot..

Gosh Fred... Everything is so much clearer and easier to see from that ivory tower, isn't it? LOL..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Gosh Fred... Everything is so much clearer and easier to see from that ivory tower, isn't it? LOL..

My tower is the same color as yours.. and my pants go on the same way too.

As Cannon Shell tells us all and I whole heartly believe him "he cant get a positive"

We all want change, Right that is what you and Satish have been working together on ..we all want more guys like Chuck to succeed and be rewarded for there ethics well then we might need to offend a few cheaters in the process even the nice ones.. BTW awesome trainers would still be awesome with or without meds IF the playing field was level. You have done an AMAZING job with Sanaan so why throw it down the drain?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

My tower is the same color as yours.. and my pants go on the same way too.

As Cannon Shell tells us all and I whole heartly believe him "he cant get a positive"

We all want change, Right that is what you and Satish have been working together on ..we all want more guys like Chuck to succeed and be rewarded for there ethics well then we might need to offend a few cheaters in the process even the nice ones.. BTW awesome trainers would still be awesome with or without meds IF the playing field was level. You have done an AMAZING job with Sanaan so why throw it down the drain?

While I am certainly eligible to get a positive test as is anyone who runs a horse under the current system but the pattern of abuse of some is damning

was the actual comment in post #69, not I "cant get a positive test" FWIW. Eric was speaking of getting a 'reputation' as a cheater. I said it cant happen to me because I wont be getting a regular series of positives.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While I am certainly eligible to get a positive test as is anyone who runs a horse under the current system but the pattern of abuse of some is damning

was the actual comment in post #69, not I "cant get a positive test" FWIW. Eric was speaking of getting a 'reputation' as a cheater. I said it cant happen to me because I wont be getting a regular series of positives.

Chuck I have a cobra I can loan you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Chuck I have a cobra I can loan you.

Send it to Freddy

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Send it to Freddy

My filly certainly could use a hit or two in her right front foot.. Is Cobra Venom dangerous if you a vet uses it discreetly?LOl

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While I am certainly eligible to get a positive test as is anyone who runs a horse under the current system but the pattern of abuse of some is damning

was the actual comment in post #69, not I "cant get a positive test" FWIW. Eric was speaking of getting a 'reputation' as a cheater. I said it cant happen to me because I wont be getting a regular series of positives.

Come on Chuck a gelding cant get a mare pregnant..If you dont cheat and you completely understand the rules and you train exclusively for owners that know as such in advance you dont get positives.. Like you have said and I am para phrasing there is a big difference between adaquan and cheater meds..

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Come on Chuck a gelding cant get a mare pregnant..If you dont cheat and you completely understand the rules and you train exclusively for owners that know as such in advance you dont get positives.. Like you have said and I am para phrasing there is a big difference between adaquan and cheater meds..

Sabotage!!! Like Larry Jones and Jim Squires!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sabotage!!! Like Larry Jones and Jim Squires!

friggin Scav's....................AGAIN lol

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Come on Chuck a gelding cant get a mare pregnant..If you dont cheat and you completely understand the rules and you train exclusively for owners that know as such in advance you dont get positives.. Like you have said and I am para phrasing there is a big difference between adaquan and cheater meds..

each horse is different and each state is different. I feel someone could get an "accidental" positive when they are following a state guideline for withdrawl times.. but the horse in question has a slower metabolism.. I think a positive could come up that way even if everyone followed the rules.

Can that happen or am I crazy? (well dont answer the last part)

I dont know how often that happens though and I imagine its the first "excuse" used for all positives. LOL

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

each horse is different and each state is different. I feel someone could get an "accidental" positive when they are following a state guideline for withdrawl times.. but the horse in question has a slower metabolism.. I think a positive could come up that way even if everyone followed the rules.

I dont know how often that happens though and I imagine its the first "excuse" used for all positives. LOL

followed quickly by the 'do you think i'm stupid' line.