Jerry Brown's letter to TDN on HOY discussion

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Your argument in this discussion has gone from saying that the pace was slow, to which I responded that it was not, to then saying it was slow again, to which I responded that it clearly was not, to now saying that it probably doesn't matter because the horses who set the pace had no chance. That's inexplicable.

Even the most mundane, elementary, and ordinary pace analysis regarding the Classic is going to make it clear that it collapsed. There were three horses in the top 5 at the 1/2 mile mark who were 11-1 or less and they finished 5th, 10th, and 11th respectively.

NT

So what are you saying, it was a suicidal pace? Yep I think most will have a hard time buying that one. Parsixfarms has a better gauge than you on this one.

By the way you also seem to have forgotten her less than perfect start...maybe I should throw the your obvious distaste for Zenyatta card that you like to brand with me all too easily.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

So what are you saying, it was a suicidal pace? Yep I think most will have a hard time buying that one. Parsixfarms has a better gauge than you on this one.

There's no middleground on pace then, it's either suicidal or slow?

I missed where anyone else even mentioned the pace in the Classic but one thing that I definitely need to get better guage on is not replying to trolls.

NT

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, I think you'd agree that Life Is Sweet ran below form in the Clement Hirsch and Lady's Secret, not to mention was very much aided by the pace situation in the Distaff.

It's along the same lines as using Einstein's 11th place finish in the Classic as some sort of barometer.

Certainly Zenyatta dusted her on the level in the Milady. However, IMO Gomez didn't do himself any favors playing cat and mouse with Smith in that one.

Because that sort of non-critical analysis also leads one to dismiss Zenyatta beating Life is Sweet because Life is Sweet couldn't beat Anabaa's Creation in the matchup we're going to allegedly use to boost Zenyatta? So either Anabaa is that good to press Zenyatta to a dirty head to the wire AND beat Life is Sweet, or she's still not that good which is why she's a better fit for a $50K claimer. The backers need to make sense of that conundrum in short order here.If you want the Life is Sweet card all year, you also need the only-a-head-better-than-Anabaa's-Creation card in the deck too. Can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There's no middleground on pace then, it's either suicidal or slow?

I missed where anyone else even mentioned the pace in the Classic but one thing that I definitely need to get better guage on is not replying to trolls.

NT

Why, Nick, do you insist on ignoring Zenyatta's flat-footed start?!

That flat-footed start left her in LAST!!!! Instead of....last.....where she would have been regularly without it.

Jeez. Come on dude, after all that harping on race dynamics?! Shame on you, you should know better.