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[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by miraja2

...but....you read the recent article in Science which demonstrates that the polar ice caps are actually melting even FASTER than previously believed?
Or not?
Certainly you aren't giving validity to the argument that this "Climategate" controvery somehow PROVES that all of the evidence regarding climate change is fabricated?

what do you take from it when one of the main research facilties is caught trying to perpetrate a hoax, to project their own agenda on others. who do we believe? all I have ever said is to be skeptical and don't be a follower, especially when there are huge special interests that have backed the accepted AGW theory.

nobody can prove anything concerning the research from the East Anglia facility. there was never ANY credible peer review. why? they dumped all the raw data. let me repeat, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RAW DATA. all that they have to offer is the comical and complicated rube goldberg sham that they tried to massage for years. It is a fundamental rule of research and scientific study to preserve the raw data. its inexcusable for them to now say they dumped it. sounds to me like they're covering their tracks.

I'm interested in the science, and I don't see any here. I didn't read the article in Science about the ice caps. climate change exists, nobody disputes that. climate is not static.

it is very very complicated, that is all i know. so when i see charlatans pumping their fists and advocating swift emergency action and that the debate is over I just laugh.