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Old 11-27-2009, 03:35 PM
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Very odd race.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:04 PM
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Very odd race.
Misrembered aint much horse and almost won.

Where was Macho Again, he is only a length of RA's form?
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:07 PM
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Misrembered aint much horse and almost won.

Where was Macho Again, he is only a length of RA's form?
I was actually speaking about how the Falls City was run.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:12 PM
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Misrembered aint much horse and almost won.

Where was Macho Again, he is only a length of RA's form?
Macho Again needs a wet track and/or a pace collapse to matter.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:26 PM
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Macho Again needs a wet track and/or a pace collapse to matter.
Didnt it fall apart?

The top pace horses finished 14, 13, 12 and 10.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:41 PM
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Didnt it fall apart?

The top pace horses finished 14, 13, 12 and 10.
Reminds me of a race on poly
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:22 PM
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Reminds me of a race on poly
true, true

Though HP has been the opposite, not all that easy to close there
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:07 PM
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Didnt it fall apart?

The top pace horses finished 14, 13, 12 and 10.
Those pace horses were: 112-1 Anarko, 9-2 Etched, 32-1 Timber Reserve and 42-1 Kiss the Kid. Really only one of those horses figured to do much better. You also neglect to mention that Misremembered and Einstein were close to the lead and finished up just fine.

This is a debate I've had with TFM, but where the pace horses finished doesn't make it a pace collapse. The fractions have to be quick as well, and they weren't. They were average, maybe slightly above. Far from the kind of setup MA needs, especially on a dry track.
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:58 PM
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Macho Again looked terrible in the stretch. He looks like he needs a vacation.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:17 PM
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Misrembered aint much horse and almost won.

Where was Macho Again, he is only a length of RA's form?
I love arguments like this. That's like saying Zenyatta is only a nose better than Anaaba's Creation. Sound right?
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I love arguments like this. That's like saying Zenyatta is only a nose better than Anaaba's Creation. Sound right?
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:22 PM
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I love arguments like this. That's like saying Zenyatta is only a nose better than Anaaba's Creation. Sound right?
It was made here for months, dont you remember..........just do a search for Drugs posts he must have mentioned it 50 times.

Its not an argument but a statement of fact.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:29 PM
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It was made here for months, dont you remember..........just do a search for Drugs posts he must have mentioned it 50 times.

Its not an argument but a statement of fact.
Out of curiousity since you seem unable to drop the topic - do you really believe Rachel does not deserve HOTY at all?
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:35 PM
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Out of curiousity since you seem unable to drop the topic - do you really believe Rachel does not deserve HOTY at all?
Its a toss up but I think RA did more when given the chance....who the better horse is, now that is a better question. I don't think Zenyatta was ever really tested, ever, her closest win was when her rider left her way to much to do when every other horse in the world would have been beaten.

While the punchline to a joke, this Anabaals Creation....it was actually the best effort Zenyatta had in her career, she should have been beat.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:45 PM
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It was made here for months, dont you remember..........just do a search for Drugs posts he must have mentioned it 50 times.

Its not an argument but a statement of fact.
I think we all know the transitive property does not apply in horse racing.

If we are going to apply it anyways, what about the filly Rachel soul-crushed in the Mother Goose by a country mile, Flashing, coming back to win the Test and the Gazelle in hand? Or the multitude of other horses she dominated that have won graded stakes since, such as Summer Bird?
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