climate center hacked

[dellinger63]

sssssssssh and it will go away. Cap and Trade LMAO

[SOREHOOF]

So much for all those "climatologists". The debate is over. I know a lot of people will still want to believe in this new state sponsored religion. The cap and tax bill will still probably get voted on. This is why the administration and their croneys on the hill want to pass all of these bills in a big hurry, before anyone has a chance to read, debate, or disprove what is being touted as fact. This is a very inconvenient truth for the global warming crowd.

[Riot]

So much for people that think climate change is political and false, rather than a scientific reality

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php.../the-cru-hack/

More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords. The truly paranoid will put this down to the hackers also being in on the plot though.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

So much for people that think climate change is political and false, rather than a scientific reality

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php.../the-cru-hack/

Some people with a smoking gun in their hand, standing over the dead body will still proclaim innocence. Oldest trick in the books in to deflect attention off of what was found onto some nebulous fantasy of what wasnt.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Some people with a smoking gun in their hand, standing over the dead body will still proclaim innocence. Oldest trick in the books in to deflect attention off of what was found onto some nebulous fantasy of what wasnt.

it's easier to talk about what isn't than what is. fact is these emails indicate a massaging of data. but that's not what believers want to see, so they ignore it. these scientists believe in warming. so, if they get data that doesn't corroborate their belief, they ignore or change the data. ta daaaa. global warming. they don't get called crackpots, and they don't get their funding cut.

[SOREHOOF]

This should be a huge story in the media, but it's not. Only 1 network is even reporting it. Can you guess who?

[witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

This should be a huge story in the media, but it's not. Only 1 network is even reporting it. Can you guess who?

The one that is unbiased.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's easier to talk about what isn't than what is. fact is these emails indicate a massaging of data. but that's not what believers want to see, so they ignore it. these scientists believe in warming. so, if they get data that doesn't corroborate their belief, they ignore or change the data. ta daaaa. global warming. they don't get called crackpots, and they don't get their funding cut.

Naw, sorry - it just indicates the usual infighting among academics. Science isn't really a "belief" system

[Cannon Shell]

So no big deal?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw, sorry - it just indicates the usual infighting among academics. Science isn't really a "belief" system

LOL They weren't fighting but conspiring and deciding how findings can be manipulated and reported to reflect not what was absolute fact but what they wanted and seemingly needed to be fact. Their motive, whether it be greed or belief is much more open to debate than the conspiracy confirmed within the contents of their emails. But how pitiful it must be to be so closed minded the conclusion resulted by reading the emails is infighting.

If Global Warming was such an open and closed case why in the hell would scientific data need to be manipulated at all and not just reported. The answer of course is it's not.