11/18 (CD): Aldebutante hurt exiting race

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think she will have any issues being a broodmare in the near future especially since she wouldnt be bred till Spring and wouldn't start adding weight for awhile. Maybe as she ages arthritis will become an issue but sometimes it doesnt. The question is should she be bred and on what terms?

now, that's the real question. on that note, would anyone be interested in her as a broodmare prospect? right now isn't exactly the best time to be dealing with a b/m prospect, especially one who didn't do much racewise.

[phystech]

If she isn't broodmare material, then let's minimize the losses and move on.

I'd rather take the remaining money from Rampy's claim and purse money and use it to claim a horse for Chuck at Philly Park. And I'd prefer to turn the deal into a dayrate partnership.

How much do we have remaining from purse and claim money? $18k, $19k? $8k gets a decent open claimer that runs for a $27k purse at Philly......

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by phystech

If she isn't broodmare material, then let's minimize the losses and move on.

I'd rather take the remaining money from Rampy's claim and purse money and use it to claim a horse for Chuck at Philly Park. And I'd prefer to turn the deal into a dayrate partnership.

How much do we have remaining from purse and claim money? $18k, $19k? $8k gets a decent open claimer that runs for a $27k purse at Philly......

OK..Your preferences are known.., but how does everyone else weigh in and I'm still not sure there is any money available anyway.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by phystech

If she isn't broodmare material, then let's minimize the losses and move on.

I'd rather take the remaining money from Rampy's claim and purse money and use it to claim a horse for Chuck at Philly Park. And I'd prefer to turn the deal into a dayrate partnership.

How much do we have remaining from purse and claim money? $18k, $19k? $8k gets a decent open claimer that runs for a $27k purse at Philly......

No offense, but how do you think the DT horses are eating, getting vet work done, paying for surgeries, anything for that matter?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by phystech

If she isn't broodmare material, then let's minimize the losses and move on.

I'd rather take the remaining money from Rampy's claim and purse money and use it to claim a horse for Chuck at Philly Park. And I'd prefer to turn the deal into a dayrate partnership.

How much do we have remaining from purse and claim money? $18k, $19k? $8k gets a decent open claimer that runs for a $27k purse at Philly......

Will you be the person responcible for collecting the daily fees from the50-70 partners? Part of the reason for one time fee was ease of administration. Chuck and Steve will make a good descision let's be patient. I also doubt with her medical history that there is much if any $$$ remaining.

[herkhorse]

I don't see how there could possibly be any $ left.

[Bigsmc]

I just saw this. Too bad.

I look forward to future updates from Chuck and Steve on the situation.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by phystech

If she isn't broodmare material, then let's minimize the losses and move on.

I'd rather take the remaining money from Rampy's claim and purse money and use it to claim a horse for Chuck at Philly Park. And I'd prefer to turn the deal into a dayrate partnership.

How much do we have remaining from purse and claim money? $18k, $19k? $8k gets a decent open claimer that runs for a $27k purse at Philly......

Rampillion's modest earnings were fortuitous as they luckily paid for Aldebutante's surgery and aftercare. Distribution of Rampillion's earnings to Chuck and Linda; 50% of the claim money to Chuck to defray his losses; transport of the pair to and from venues (Kentucky Downs, Linda Albert, etc.); turnouts, and the rest of the expenses we handle from the Stable side leaves us with enough to cover taking care of Aldeb until we can sell her... if we can sell her.

We will try to arrange for a good sire to get her in foal and she will be put in a sale next fall. That's the optimal scenario. In that arrangement, we might get something back for her.

While the yearling purchases weren't overtly successful at first glance, we did get the pair to the races. That in itself was an accomplishment. We had the experience of taking horses from sale to breaking to racing to career end via injury and losing one to a claim. It was probably an overly ambitious attempt, given our meager bankroll, so we can only thank Chuck and Linda for their generosity and each other for making it possible.

[Kasept]

Just gave a quick glance to the monies on Dee Tee 03 so everyone understands the expenses and flow...

Rampillion earned $14,700 (or so) for us and was claimed for $10,000. (total $24,700)

$7,350 of earnings (50%) back to trainers and $5,000 to Chuck off the claim. ($12,350).

After that, 35% goes to operating fund of the specific group ($8,645) and 15% go to general operating overhead of Dee Tee as a whole ($3,700).

Operating revenue of $8,645 from Rampillion... PLUS third place money from Aldeb's Arlington comeback race (@$1,200 net) = $9,850.

Of that, Aldeb's surgery and aftercare: $4,000.

Davant, Latham for Insurance on Aldeb: $2,461

Estimated Transport expenses included

• Aldeb to and from NY for debut;
  
• Rampillion to Linda Albert;
  
• Aldeb to and from Chicago and KY Downs;
  
• Rampillion to and from Turfway;
  
• Both to and from turnout stays:

Estimated $1,800 (and likely higher)

Extra expenses along the way have included special farrier care/glue on shoes for Aldeb: $500-$700.

You get the picture I'm sure... We've also helped Chuck with unusual vet care needs like tests and vitamins for Aldeb when her various imbalances arose...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Kasept

We will try to arrange for a good sire to get her in foal and she will be put in a sale next fall. That's the optimal scenario. In that arrangement, we might get something back for her.

That's a great plan, versus hoping for a sale empty in Jan. Thanks to Chuck for being willing to keep covering expenses and keep her until then.

If that partnership would benefit by a little more cash infusion, I'm in.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Rampillion's modest earnings were fortuitous as they luckily paid for Aldebutante's surgery and aftercare. Distribution of Rampillion's earnings to Chuck and Linda; 50% of the claim money to Chuck to defray his losses; transport of the pair to and from venues (Kentucky Downs, Linda Albert, etc.); turnouts, and the rest of the expenses we handle from the Stable side leaves us with enough to cover taking care of Aldeb until we can sell her... if we can sell her.

We will try to arrange for a good sire to get her in foal and she will be put in a sale next fall. That's the optimal scenario. In that arrangement, we might get something back for her.

While the yearling purchases weren't overtly successful at first glance, we did get the pair to the races. That in itself was an accomplishment. We had the experience of taking horses from sale to breaking to racing to career end via injury and losing one to a claim. It was probably an overly ambitious attempt, given our meager bankroll, so we can only thank Chuck and Linda for their generosity and each other for making it possible.

Sorry to hear about the horses bad luck and knees, The business sucks sometimes. Sounds like with a little TLC, and proper care she will be ok to resume her life as a horse. That isn't the worst news you will ever hear!

[cabvmd]

I am one of the veterinarian advisors for ReRun NJ. Keep me posted I can see if we can find Aleb a place in the new farm they have down in New Egypt NJ during her rehab. While she is there I can keep an eye on her as well. Once she is recovered they have a very good adoption program where they are strict on who is allowed to adopt and then they keep tight tabs on the horses that get adopted and make sure they are always taken care of properly.

This farm is beautiful, used to be Stanly Dancer's (of Standardbred superstardom) farm and now ReRun NJ has the fulll lease of the place. alot of acres.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cabvmd

I am one of the veterinarian advisors for ReRun NJ. Keep me posted I can see if we can find Aleb a place in the new farm they have down in New Egypt NJ during her rehab. While she is there I can keep an eye on her as well. Once she is recovered they have a very good adoption program where they are strict on who is allowed to adopt and then they keep tight tabs on the horses that get adopted and make sure they are always taken care of properly.

This farm is beautiful, used to be Stanly Dancer's (of Standardbred superstardom) farm and now ReRun NJ has the fulll lease of the place. alot of acres.

Egypt Acres? Didn't they have a 5/8th track there that they used to run NJSS fair races?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Egypt Acres? Didn't they have a 5/8th track there that they used to run NJSS fair races?

[phystech]

Originally Posted by cabvmd

I am one of the veterinarian advisors for ReRun NJ. Keep me posted I can see if we can find Aleb a place in the new farm they have down in New Egypt NJ during her rehab. While she is there I can keep an eye on her as well. Once she is recovered they have a very good adoption program where they are strict on who is allowed to adopt and then they keep tight tabs on the horses that get adopted and make sure they are always taken care of properly.

This farm is beautiful, used to be Stanly Dancer's (of Standardbred superstardom) farm and now ReRun NJ has the fulll lease of the place. alot of acres.

What does Rerun charge these days for taking a donated horse?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by phystech

What does Rerun charge these days for taking a donated horse?

Funny but sad...Donated and charged in the same sentence.. More importantly, your question is a valid one.