Obama: Too much debt could fuel double-dip recession

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

There currently are millions of foreign workers on H1 visa's in this country doing all kinds of white collar jobs (accounting, medical, IT, etc,etc). The program was started to fill a void during the .Com bubble but now is being misused for wage arbitrage. The program should be shut down and none of the visas extended..

According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know) there are only just over 100,000 approved per year for the past few years, with a 3-5 year limit of duration, no extension. So hardly "millions" that I can see.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know) there are only just over 100,000 approved per year for the past few years, with a 3-5 year limit of duration, no extension. So hardly "millions" that I can see.

You should have stopped right after you questioned your source. There are extenions and loopholes and then you can apply for a green card which kind of sets the clock again... As I have said millions.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

You should have stopped right after you questioned your source. There are extenions and loopholes and then you can apply for a green card which kind of sets the clock again... As I have said millions.

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

[Danzig]

and then there's this....


http://www.factcheck.org/2009/11/rea...ake-districts/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

but she's a republican

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

As you can tell, Riot just needs to have a comeback for any post anyone makes on any topic in this Politics sections. And it has to be the opposite view of any type of "conservative" view.

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. I mean, Jimmy Carter. Enough said.

Then she needs to do a tad bit more research than what she finds on Wikipedia.

[SOREHOOF]

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

That's a good one

[SOREHOOF]

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34139
For your reading pleasure!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

Can't get the link to work, but I guess FOX lies like everyone else. The last paragraph says it all

Mea Culpa: Fox News keeps making conservative-friendly mistakes
Jeff Bercovici
Nov 19th 2009 at 4:45PMText SizeAAAFiled under: People, Media, News Corp.
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Every news organization makes mistakes. But when Fox News makes mistakes, they seem to tilt in a suspiciously consistent direction, favoring Republicans and conservatives over Democrats and liberals.

It happened again Wednesday, when host Gregg Jarrett, introducing a segment on Happening Now, described the "huge crowds" that were turning out to greet Sarah Palin on the promotional tour for her book, Going Rogue. "These are some of the pictures just coming into us," Jarrett said as images of Palin surrounded by throngs of supporters flashed across the screen.



While Palin may indeed be drawing big crowds, it didn't take long for liberal watchdog blogs like Think Progress and Media Matters to point out that the masses Jarrett touted on Happening Now had nothing to do with Palin's book; the footage was from a 2008 campaign rally. Called on the switcheroo, Fox blamed it on a "production error" and issued an on-air apology.

The whole thing might have gone unnoticed had it not been for an eerily similar incident last week in a much more prominent venue, Sean Hannity's primetime show. In this case, the crowd Hannity was hyping was the one that gathered to attend a rally against the healthcare bill on November 5. The footage he showed, however, was from the much larger Sept. 12 "tea parties." In that case, it was The Daily Show that blew the whistle, forcing Hannity to apologize on the following day's show.

And then, of course, there are all the Republican miscreants Fox has mistakenly identified as Democrats, like Mark Sanford and Mark Foley, and the insufficiently doctrinaire Republicans it has ID'd as Democrats, like John McCain and Arlen Specter (who did, in fact, become a Democrat later).

One would like to think that all of these were genuine accidents, not intentional efforts to mislead viewers. Hannity's show is advocacy, not news, but even he could surely find more effective and less backfire-prone ways to influence the debate than outright deception.

Even so, this pattern of ideologically-slanted errors illustrates the danger of packaging a news operation around a core of opinion programming. As long as Fox News is a network by and for conservatives, the people who produce its shows -- even its "objective" shows -- are going to see in the news what they expect to see rather than what it really is.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Can't get the link to work, but I guess FOX lies like everyone else. The last paragraph says it all

Mea Culpa: Fox News keeps making conservative-friendly mistakes
Jeff Bercovici
Nov 19th 2009 at 4:45PMText SizeAAAFiled under: People, Media, News Corp.
More

Every news organization makes mistakes. But when Fox News makes mistakes, they seem to tilt in a suspiciously consistent direction, favoring Republicans and conservatives over Democrats and liberals.

It happened again Wednesday, when host Gregg Jarrett, introducing a segment on Happening Now, described the "huge crowds" that were turning out to greet Sarah Palin on the promotional tour for her book, Going Rogue. "These are some of the pictures just coming into us," Jarrett said as images of Palin surrounded by throngs of supporters flashed across the screen.



While Palin may indeed be drawing big crowds, it didn't take long for liberal watchdog blogs like Think Progress and Media Matters to point out that the masses Jarrett touted on Happening Now had nothing to do with Palin's book; the footage was from a 2008 campaign rally. Called on the switcheroo, Fox blamed it on a "production error" and issued an on-air apology.

The whole thing might have gone unnoticed had it not been for an eerily similar incident last week in a much more prominent venue, Sean Hannity's primetime show. In this case, the crowd Hannity was hyping was the one that gathered to attend a rally against the healthcare bill on November 5. The footage he showed, however, was from the much larger Sept. 12 "tea parties." In that case, it was The Daily Show that blew the whistle, forcing Hannity to apologize on the following day's show.

And then, of course, there are all the Republican miscreants Fox has mistakenly identified as Democrats, like Mark Sanford and Mark Foley, and the insufficiently doctrinaire Republicans it has ID'd as Democrats, like John McCain and Arlen Specter (who did, in fact, become a Democrat later).

One would like to think that all of these were genuine accidents, not intentional efforts to mislead viewers. Hannity's show is advocacy, not news, but even he could surely find more effective and less backfire-prone ways to influence the debate than outright deception.

Even so, this pattern of ideologically-slanted errors illustrates the danger of packaging a news operation around a core of opinion programming. As long as Fox News is a network by and for conservatives, the people who produce its shows -- even its "objective" shows -- are going to see in the news what they expect to see rather than what it really is.

ABC ,CBS , NBC , CNN ........whats the big deal , they all slant crap the way they want it to go , none of them just report the news.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Even so, this pattern of ideologically-slanted errors illustrates the danger of packaging a news operation around a core of opinion programming. As long as Fox News is a network by and for conservatives, the people who produce its shows -- even its "objective" shows -- are going to see in the news what they expect to see rather than what it really is.[/i]

I never realized that Rupert Murdoch owns both FOX and the Wall Street Journal.

And I see the Anti-Defamation League is tired of it, too. Glenn Beck gets it here: http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/5655_72.htm

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Facts, Shmacts. Liberals don't deal in facts. Only hope and promises.

Run for office. You have my vote

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Then she needs to do a tad bit more research than what she finds on Wikipedia.

So share yours - I'd love to see where you got your "millions" number from?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

So share yours - I'd love to see where you got your "millions" number from?

Here you ****ing moron. No extensions. Do the ****ing math jerkoff. Calculate all the possible work visas not simply H1 then factor in the extensions and those that get in queue for Green Cards. Get out of the house and into the real world. I'm pretty much done with you now as it is impossible to argue with someone whose view of the ****ing world is Wikipedia.

http://www.immspec.com/h-1b-visa-extension.htm

http://www.path2usa.com/immigration/..._extension.htm

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So I guess her "facts" can be taken as a grain of salt or however that saying goes. .

You mean, a grain of salt like saying "millions" but not having any source for that other than "I think so"?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

You should have stopped right after you questioned your source. There are extenions and loopholes and then you can apply for a green card which kind of sets the clock again... As I have said millions.

Yeah, millions and millions and millions! Because .... where did you get that info from?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, millions and millions and millions! Because .... where did you get that info from?

I never said millions and millions idiot and that was a lame response. But you couldn't even do the simple research to determine if there was an extension and then apply the simple ****ing math. If you weren't sitting around in your ****ing bath robe stuffing your face with bon bons all day and were in the real world rather than googling and using the first thing that comes up (Usually Wikipedia) you would ****ing get it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by jms62

I never said millions and millions idiot and that was a lame response. But you couldn't even do the simple research to determine if there was an extension and then apply the simple ****ing math. If you weren't sitting around in your ****ing bath robe stuffing your face with bon bons all day and were in the real world rather than googling and using the first thing that comes up (Usually Wikipedia) you would ****ing get it.

Is it really all that? I use to get the same way and it really is no way to spend your day. Go get yourself a nice of cup of coffee and enjoy the morning.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Is it really all that? I use to get the same way and it really is no way to spend your day. Go get yourself a nice of cup of coffee and enjoy the morning.

That could be part of the problem..maybe too many cups?