11/18 (CD): Aldebutante hurt exiting race

[cabvmd]

Saw Cannon Shell's reply that Deb is a big sweater and nervous.

When I worked as an attending vet at the track I found B1 and Calcuim helps these real nervous sweaty fillies and mares. I even had a couple of geldings I would give it to as well. Chuck knows and has probalbly tried this, but just in case he did not try this combination I posted it.

Show horse trainers use Magnsium sulfate as a calming treatement and muscle treatment as well.


With all electrolyte treatments you have to try and titrate the horse to see what is the minimum doses that help and be very careful as all the electrolyes are "micronutrients" and exessive doses can be harmful.

ie Standardbred trainers use potassium citrate to make the horses' blood more basic instead of baking soda since the "Black box" testing for milk shaking tests for elevated levels of sodium bicarb, the traditional milk shake material. High potassium causes irregular heart rhythms which I saw many when I was a state vet at the Meadowlands. In the first 5 years I worked I saw maybe 1 or 2 horses with atrial fib, after the advent of testing for milk shakes and the trainers started using these "alternative" ways to lower the pH of the horses' blood, I would see 1-2 a week.

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by cabvmd

Saw Cannon Shell's reply that Deb is a big sweater and nervous.

When I worked as an attending vet at the track I found B1 and Calcuim helps these real nervous sweaty fillies and mares. I even had a couple of geldings I would give it to as well. Chuck knows and has probalbly tried this, but just in case he did not try this combination I posted it.

Show horse trainers use Magnsium sulfate as a calming treatement and muscle treatment as well.


With all electrolyte treatments you have to try and titrate the horse to see what is the minimum doses that help and be very careful as all the electrolyes are "micronutrients" and exessive doses can be harmful.

ie Standardbred trainers use potassium citrate to make the horses' blood more basic instead of baking soda since the "Black box" testing for milk shaking tests for elevated levels of sodium bicarb, the traditional milk shake material. High potassium causes irregular heart rhythms which I saw many when I was a state vet at the Meadowlands. In the first 5 years I worked I saw maybe 1 or 2 horses with atrial fib, after the advent of testing for milk shakes and the trainers started using these "alternative" ways to lower the pH of the horses' blood, I would see 1-2 a week.

Thanks, again.

Hopefully, Chuck can use this information (if he hasn't already tried it).

[Halfbridled]

yes, it kind of looks like she's protecting her knees by not pushing herself too hard.

[phystech]

I recall this filly had knee surgery last Dec, but I see the use of the plural "knees" being offered as one of her problems. I didn't realize this was a "knees" situation, instead of just her left knee. Is this something that can be addressed by tapping one, or both knees?

Or, are we quickly approaching new career time for Aldeb?

It never makes sense to pour good money into a bad situation and I've frequently found the best money I have in my pocket is the cash I didn't spend.

Philly isn't an easier circuit for her kind, but MD or Charles Town might be - are either of those options beng considered? Are $8k maidens in MD, or $5k maidens at CT in her future?

Whatever you guys decide, it's never an easy call.....

[Danzig]

the quickness of her works don't necessarily show a lack of want-to. was she, yet again, a victim of having footing not to her liking?

[phystech]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the quickness of her works don't necessarily show a lack of want-to. was she, yet again, a victim of having footing not to her liking?

Good morning work horses don't always make good afternoon race horses.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by phystech

Good morning work horses don't always make good afternoon race horses.

yes, i know. but if she's not afraid of exerting herself in the morning, i'm not sure that's what is to blame in the afternoon.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the quickness of her works don't necessarily show a lack of want-to. was she, yet again, a victim of having footing not to her liking?

Her problem is working and running the same times. Not exactly sure what to do with her.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Her problem is working and running the same times. Not exactly sure what to do with her.

right. imo more of a head issue than a knee issue. she's still fairly green, isn't she? i know she ran once at two, and then quite a bit of time off this year. at any rate, hope for a fast track for next time, maybe you'll get a better accounting from her.