Going Rogue

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well, I haven't read the book so I won't comment on contents...have seen Sarah on the cover of Newsweek. I may not agree with most of her positions but I can think of many positions I'd love to see her in! Great legs! I watched some talk shows this morning...all ripped her pretty good, both Republicans and Democrats. McCain folks absolutely hate her...for no other reason I think she deserves to be heard! A beautiful woman gets thrust into national politics by an old white guy and when things don't work for him, suddenly she's a diva and a bimbo. I'm not convinced she's a worse candidate than Rudy or Huckleberry...guess time will tell.

She's a pretty predictable individual, but very clever. So, even though she's a liar, she's damn good at distracting attention away from it. There's a reason why some people's lies go pretty much unnoticed, or mainly excused away. When people have really good gesture skills, they can get away with a lot more than ordinary people. Believe me, she knows it. Look, she quit her job for no good reason, and stood up there bullshtn about why she was quiting. I know her favorite saying is "Get over it!!" I know exactly why she couldn't answer Katie Couric's question (about what she reads.) For most people involved in politics, that was a very easy question. Not for her. That line of questioning just so happens to be the textbook way to trip up a Narcissist. They have almost zero interest in anything that doesn't involve them directly. Even a Narcissist involved in politics will have huge political blind spots where they know almost nothing. Most people have written that off as being due to her being so far away from the rest of the U.S.(and not being involved in National Politics.) That's a mistake. It doesn't explain being that woefully bad in certain areas of politics. The way to explain it is that she has no interest in things that don't involve her. You remember when she didn't tell her kids that her baby was gunna have Down's Syndrome ? They were left to discover it visually (on their own.) O.K., that's a very specific lack of sensitivity that you just don't see in that many people. These people have very little consideration for how their behaviour affects specific individuals(like their family members.) Not only that, but Narcissists really despise talking about their imperfections. The reason she didn't tell them is very simple (to her.) She didn't want to talk about it. If a narcissist doesn't want to do something, then they just won't do it. They are great at figuring out what the crowd wants. They naturally want to do whatever will please a crowd. In this case, it involved her kids. She's not equipped to care about how something will affect them. Again, if you look at this lady's mistakes, you'll see she makes a certain type of mistake.

[joeydb]

The Democrats are just upset that Sarah Palin actually looks like a woman who guys want to be with. Who was the last Democratic candidate you saw that was actually hot?

Doesn't mean Palin is qualified for the presidency -- different issue, but there's little doubt of why the liberals and the press are trying so hard to knock her down -- especially after the election when she really wasn't in the spotlight. The only thing that made David Letterman curtail his Palin jokes was his own scandal.

[gales0678]

if she were presdent right now would she be doing any worse than Obama?

why health care is an important issue and deserves time and energy does it deserve all the time and energey of the domestic issues , the jobs issue gets thrown to the back burner...unemploymnet standing at around 17% and climbing , if that number doesn't start heading south the dems will be out in '10 and obama will go the way of papa bush , 1 and done

[joeydb]

Yeah, aren't you glad we're trying to turn the best medical system in the world into another social security, medicare, or welfare failure? That's a much better time than trying to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions, right? There won't be any problem with that.

I submit to you that those who think the president is a genius are easily impressed, and might consider the reverse possibility. For an illustration of what I mean, watch "Being There" with Peter Sellers.

[dalakhani]

[quote=joeydb]Yeah, aren't you glad we're trying to turn the best medical system in the world into another social security, medicare, or welfare failure? QUOTE]

I'm curious as to what would make our health care system the best in the world. Enlighten me...please.

[joeydb]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Yeah, aren't you glad we're trying to turn the best medical system in the world into another social security, medicare, or welfare failure? QUOTE]

I'm curious as to what would make our health care system the best in the world. Enlighten me...please.

Uh... how about the highest life expectency for starters? The pharmaceuticals the rest of the world uses are researched, invented and made here. Medical equipment, not to mention the medical schools themselves: Johns Hopkins just one example.

When a case of Siamese twins is reported, where is the surgery almost always performed to separate them? Here. When world leaders get sick, where do many of them come for surgery? Here.

You can't be that obtuse. I'm certain you are just trying to be sarcastic in favor of your leftist sensibilities. In that case, you probably already believe that idiot Michael Moore, in which case I guess you'll be going to Cuba for any necessary surgery or advanced medical care. Take a number, they'll get to you in around 18 months. While your at it, go to the UK for dentistry too. They're pulling out their own teeth over there because they can't get an appointment -- that's how good socialized medicine is.

Let's increase the demand and decrease the supply, that'll work out real well. How does that happen? Simple. By making everything "free" (note the quotes), every splinter or hangnail will go to the Emergency Room. Hospitals will fill with less severe cases from more vocal and politically protected classes, even those who don't speak English so it's harder to get a medical history. Couple that with putting price caps on medical care, in the hope that hospitals and doctors will operate at a loss, and all of a sudden less potential doctors want to go into medical school. The price caps alone would do that just like the gas station lines in the 70's. Price fixing doesn't work.

We'll soon have Soviet-style lines wrapping around the corner. John Stossel showed this about the Canadian system while he was still working at ABC.

Get a clue -- a leftist arrogant delivery does not constitute a brilliant point. Those who haven't consumed the Obama Kool-Aid aren't buying it. 2010 will be a bad year if you're looking for blue on that election map.

[dalakhani]

[quote=joeydb]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Uh... how about the highest life expectency for starters? The pharmaceuticals the rest of the world uses are researched, invented and made here. Medical equipment, not to mention the medical schools themselves: Johns Hopkins just one example.

When a case of Siamese twins is reported, where is the surgery almost always performed to separate them? Here. When world leaders get sick, where do many of them come for surgery? Here.

You can't be that obtuse. I'm certain you are just trying to be sarcastic in favor of your leftist sensibilities. In that case, you probably already believe that idiot Michael Moore, in which case I guess you'll be going to Cuba for any necessary surgery or advanced medical care. Take a number, they'll get to you in around 18 months. While your at it, go to the UK for dentistry too. They're pulling out their own teeth over there because they can't get an appointment -- that's how good socialized medicine is.

Let's increase the demand and decrease the supply, that'll work out real well. How does that happen? Simple. By making everything "free" (note the quotes), every splinter or hangnail will go to the Emergency Room. Hospitals will fill with less severe cases from more vocal and politically protected classes, even those who don't speak English so it's harder to get a medical history. Couple that with putting price caps on medical care, in the hope that hospitals and doctors will operate at a loss, and all of a sudden less potential doctors want to go into medical school. The price caps alone would do that just like the gas station lines in the 70's. Price fixing doesn't work.

We'll soon have Soviet-style lines wrapping around the corner. John Stossel showed this about the Canadian system while he was still working at ABC.

Get a clue -- a leftist arrogant delivery does not constitute a brilliant point. Those who haven't consumed the Obama Kool-Aid aren't buying it. 2010 will be a bad year if you're looking for blue on that election map.

LOL. There is not a single statement of fact in this silly diatribe. Again, I asked you to enlighten me. Try again except this time throw in a fact or two. I know you can do it.

[dalakhani]

[quote=joeydb]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

When a case of Siamese twins is reported, where is the surgery almost always performed to separate them? Here. .

Filling out my papers right now for a membership in the Republican Party.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

if she were presdent right now would she be doing any worse than Obama?

why health care is an important issue and deserves time and energy does it deserve all the time and energey of the domestic issues , the jobs issue gets thrown to the back burner...unemploymnet standing at around 17% and climbing , if that number doesn't start heading south the dems will be out in '10 and obama will go the way of papa bush , 1 and done

You seem like a nice guy. Research that stat.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You seem like a nice guy. Research that stat.

It was released a couple of weeks ago that if you include those who have given up looking for a job, the figure is around 17%. The unemployment statistic, going back to Carter, always has a time limit (6 months, a year, I forget which). So before you chuckle too much, that number has some validity, given the proper context.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It was released a couple of weeks ago that if you include those who have given up looking for a job, the figure is around 17%. The unemployment statistic, going back to Carter, always has a time limit (6 months, a year, I forget which). So before you chuckle too much, that number has some validity, given the proper context.

of all papers , even the ny times had it at 17% in an article about 2 weeks ago

[richard burch]

and she is so smart too!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6e7jvED8gM

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It was released a couple of weeks ago that if you include those who have given up looking for a job, the figure is around 17%. The unemployment statistic, going back to Carter, always has a time limit (6 months, a year, I forget which). So before you chuckle too much, that number has some validity, given the proper context.

LOL. Any number has validity given "proper context". I can say unemployment is at zero percent...given the context that everyone that works in my buidling has had a job since yesterday when the survey was taken.

The number that counts is the one given out monthly by the US govt...right or wrong. That is the number Mr. Bush use to tout...before the jobs started going away. Last month, that number was at 9.8%.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. Any number has validity given "proper context". I can say unemployment is at zero percent...given the context that everyone that works in my buidling has had a job since yesterday when the survey was taken.

The number that counts is the one given out monthly by the US govt...right or wrong. That is the number Mr. Bush use to tout...before the jobs started going away. Last month, that number was at 9.8%.

he was wrong too

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You seem like a nice guy. Research that stat.

1/6 - so it s/b 16.67% , im off 0.32 % you got me

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The Democrats are just upset that Sarah Palin actually looks like a woman who guys want to be with. Who was the last Democratic candidate you saw that was actually hot?

Doesn't mean Palin is qualified for the presidency -- different issue, but there's little doubt of why the liberals and the press are trying so hard to knock her down -- especially after the election when she really wasn't in the spotlight. The only thing that made David Letterman curtail his Palin jokes was his own scandal.

She did everything she could to try to stay in the spotlight AFTER the election including fueling the whole Letterman controversy. She is a sad caricature and a shining example of why the Republican Party is such a fractured mess.

This is what the Republicans want me to consider as a viable presidential candidate or even simply the face of their party? As an educated professional mother I am supposed to re-embrace my lost conservative ideals through the leadership of this person? Really??

This victimhoom card is being played waaaaaay too early and her spin doctors have got to cool the rhetoric at least for another two years. By the time 2012 rolls around, she will not only come across as dumb but also as a baby.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

She did everything she could to try to stay in the spotlight AFTER the election including fueling the whole Letterman controversy. She is a sad caricature and a shining example of why the Republican Party is such a fractured mess.

This is what the Republicans want me to consider as a viable presidential candidate or even simply the face of their party? As an educated professional mother I am supposed to re-embrace my lost conservative ideals through the leadership of this person? Really??

This victimhoom card is being played waaaaaay too early and her spin doctors have got to cool the rhetoric at least for another two years. By the time 2012 rolls around, she will not only come across as dumb but also as a baby.

i am for Jeb Bush , take away the last name , he is more than viable

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This victimhoom card is being played waaaaaay too early....

She will own victomhood, and guilt. Those will be 2 of her 5 great pitches, but, if someone says something against her, she will totally lose all command. Oba didn't say anything much about her. Just wait until a Republican Primary comes up. Nut gun come flying out of that shell. She fought with McCain's people for 1 reason. Someone else wanted the spotlight. This is not a team player. Can't do it (unless she is the head of the team.) She can try to paint those folks(running his campaign) a certain way, but she's a pathological liar. Not saying they ran a great campaign, but I wouldn't trust a thing she says. She was the one simply telling lies about Oba on the campaign stops. The press(and Oba's people) let it go, but she was simply a liar during those speeches.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The Democrats are just upset that Sarah Palin actually looks like a woman who guys want to be with. Who was the last Democratic candidate you saw that was actually hot?

Doesn't mean Palin is qualified for the presidency -- different issue, but there's little doubt of why the liberals and the press are trying so hard to knock her down -- especially after the election when she really wasn't in the spotlight. The only thing that made David Letterman curtail his Palin jokes was his own scandal.

Trust me, she'll knock herself down.