Now Quality Road refuses to board plane

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

And my contention is that its more likely that a horse already recently stressed (via the work, not to mention any unmeasurable stress from the other clusterfucl<s), will turn up with a fever after shipping.

Its certainly not a capital crime, and I'm sure its done all the time, but given all the other things that the horse has suffered through, you'd think they'd just relax and start again slowly, from scratch.

That is assuming that a 48.60 work for a horse like Quality Road would be a stressful event. As wound up as he has been recently, letting him stretch his legs was probably the least stressful thing asked of him.

Many trainers work their horses the day they ship long distances. Among them noted Freddy Mo mancrush, Shug.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is assuming that a 48.60 work for a horse like Quality Road would be a stressful event. As wound up as he has been recently, letting him stretch his legs was probably the least stressful thing asked of him.

Many trainers work their horses the day they ship long distances. Among them noted Freddy Mo mancrush, Shug.

I know I always walk to Jimmy Johns rather than drive right before a long flight..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is assuming that a 48.60 work for a horse like Quality Road would be a stressful event. As wound up as he has been recently, letting him stretch his legs was probably the least stressful thing asked of him.

Many trainers work their horses the day they ship long distances. Among them noted Freddy Mo mancrush, Shug.

If Shug does it it HAS TO BE RIGHT..Nobody other then perhaps Dinny roots for Shug harder then me.. He has a FTS by Dixie Union out of a Relaxing daughter Saturday.. Derby 10 winner..lol

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is assuming that a 48.60 work for a horse like Quality Road would be a stressful event. As wound up as he has been recently, letting him stretch his legs was probably the least stressful thing asked of him.

I'm using the term "stress" in a much more generic sense. A workout in general "stresses" an athlete's entire body, exposing to a slew of problems (if only briefly). I'm not suggesting something specific or negative happened as a result of the work in this case. Just the normal, uneventful breeze alone leaves the body more vulnerable.

Nonetheless, as an example, we don't know if the horse has a history of bleeding (Pletcher did add Lasix where Jerkens did not) and even if not, due to the recent episodes involving the horse, it's possible he could bleed in an isolated incident. As I'm sure you're aware, horses also can go off feed for a day or two following a work.

Again, I'm just saying the connections are taking more and more risks seemingly daily with the colt after the gate fiasco. The odds are still in their favor that they won't get burned by any of it.

Many trainers work their horses the day they ship long distances. Among them noted Freddy Mo mancrush, Shug.

Yeah, but I would assume in Shug McGaughey, for the most part, ships his horses right on top of the race, getting all the conditioning done at home and avoiding having to breeze the horse on a new surface (or without his supervision).

That's different from Quality Road's case. As far as I know, he's not shipping to run right away, unless of course, he was targeting the Stuyvesant...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'm using the term "stress" in a much more generic sense. A workout in general "stresses" an athlete's entire body, exposing to a slew of problems (if only briefly). I'm not suggesting something specific or negative happened as a result of the work in this case. Just the normal, uneventful breeze alone leaves the body more vulnerable.

Nonetheless, as an example, we don't know if the horse has a history of bleeding (Pletcher did add Lasix where Jerkens did not) and even if not, due to the recent episodes involving the horse, it's possible he could bleed in an isolated incident. As I'm sure you're aware, horses also can go off feed for a day or two following a work.

Again, I'm just saying the connections are taking more and more risks seemingly daily with the colt after the gate fiasco. The odds are still in their favor that they won't get burned by any of it.



Yeah, but I would assume in Shug McGaughey, for the most part, ships his horses right on top of the race, getting all the conditioning done at home and avoiding having to breeze the horse on a new surface (or without his supervision).

That's different from Quality Road's case. As far as I know, he's not shipping to run right away, unless of course, he was targeting the Stuyvesant...

I think you are over thinking it a little bit. If he were to bleed I'm sure they would delay the ship.

As for the Shug post, while he does often breeze and ship (I was thinking more of shipping the barn NY to FL or vice versa) that was for for Freddy Mo's benefit than anything.