The House is about to socialize your medicine, and your life.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Honu

Driving a car and driving a penis are alot diffirent , wouldnt you say ?
Sometimes you lose control of your car thru no one's fault , can that be said about a penis?

Ok, pregnant women. Get insurance to pay for their pre-natal care or no? I mean, they clearly drove a penis straight towards the only way to get pregnant.

How about not heeding a doctor's advice to try to avoid becoming diabetic? You either follow directions or you don't.

Insurance pays for that? Or no?

If I intentionally cut my finger off right now, I could go to the ER and get my insurance to pay for it. Much like intentionally driving a penis, so to speak.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Ok, pregnant women. Get insurance to pay for their pre-natal care or no? I mean, they clearly drove a penis straight towards the only way to get pregnant.

How about not heeding a doctor's advice to try to avoid becoming diabetic? You either follow directions or you don't.

Insurance pays for that? Or no?

If I intentionally cut my finger off right now, I could go to the ER and get my insurance to pay for it. Much like intentionally driving a penis, so to speak.

Things like diabetes and heart disease and such can be passed on thru gene's but getting knocked up is passed thru the zipper and no I dont think the federal government should pay for it , You who agree should donate your money to the next kill a baby for no good reason except that Im a fu cking selffish nimrod and I have no self control.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Honu

Things like diabetes and heart disease and such can be passed on thru gene's but getting knocked up is passed thru the zipper and no I dont think the federal government should pay for it , You who agree should donate your money to the next kill a baby for no good reason except that Im a fu cking selffish nimrod and I have no self control.

Can you rephrase that in English?

And you seem awfully selective about what sorts of self-induced things should be covered by insurance. Sure some diabetic people are genetically at risk...and some aren't. I'd submit that you'd need to make that distinction if you don't want to cover perfectly legal elective abortions in this health plan while covering all sorts of other situations people put themselves into.

But again, what you won't answer is whether or not you think that pregnant women's prenatal care should be covered by insurance, but not abortion....you get to the same spot the same way, so what gives?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Can you rephrase that in English?

And you seem awfully selective about what sorts of self-induced things should be covered by insurance. Sure some diabetic people are genetically at risk...and some aren't. I'd submit that you'd need to make that distinction if you don't want to cover perfectly legal elective abortions in this health plan while covering all sorts of other situations people put themselves into.

But again, what you won't answer is whether or not you think that pregnant women's prenatal care should be covered by insurance, but not abortion....you get to the same spot the same way, so what gives?

This isnt about prenatal care , so no I wont answer your question. This is about the federal government paying for an abortion , you want them to and I dont.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Honu

This isnt about prenatal care , so no I wont answer your question. This is about the federal government paying for an abortion , you want them to and I dont.

It's about restricing an insurance plan's ability to cover an abortion, which they currently already do.

So you have a problem with legal medical procedures being covered because you just don't like them?

And prenatal care is perfectly relevant to the point, and the reason why you're pretending the two are not related is because it blows a hole open in what you're saying and proves the obvious logic problem presented by your argument, because the same action creates the same situation, but depending on the next choice, you change your mind about what insurance companies should be able to offer. Then again, anti-choicers aren't particularly well-known for being consistent or logical.

That being -- you're incredibly concerned about people having sex and getting pregnant and insurance companies being able to pay for it, because it was their fault they went and had sex and got pregnant and don't want the baby. But you're not concerned one bit about people having sex and getting pregnant and insurance companies being able to pay for it because it was their fault they went and had sex and got pregnant and do want the baby?

I appreciate your incredible transparency.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

This isnt about prenatal care , so no I wont answer your question. This is about the federal government paying for an abortion , you want them to and I dont.

But Honu..they are LEGAL

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

But Honu..they are LEGAL

I never said they werent legal GB, where in this thread have I ever said that .
You know what else is legal , drinking beer , so lets have a government program to pay for beer.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Honu

This isnt about prenatal care , so no I wont answer your question. This is about the federal government paying for an abortion , you want them to and I dont.

you know I'm on the right but a few hundred bucks up front rather than have an 'unwanted baby' who takes 18 yrs to mature at a minimum makes sense to abort IMO. $500 now or $50,000 over 18yrs. Maybe some abortion clinic Dr's can even volunteer some for the lazy and needy and call the clinic 'The Alley'. get a reality TV show and the process pays for itself. Illegals get a free abortion, w/one fake implant for (identification purposes)