Early Breeders' Cup Projections...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
thats a race for the ages.

better than when Montjeu met Sinndar or any other running that I have seen.

Repent

That was 2000 right?

[repent]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That was 2000 right?

yep,
it was 2000, which was Sinndar's awesome 3YO year where he was basically a head away from being unbeaten.
his only loss was by a head in a Epsom Derby prep race.
he went on to win the Epsom Derby, the Irish Derby, and the Arc. retired with 7 wins in 8 starts.

Montjeu won the Arc the previous year in 1999.

funny thing is, I think Sinndar still lost out on year end honors b/c that was the same year Giants Causeway had an awesome 3YO campaign.


Repent

I just learned that they are definately going to run Gorella next in a mile race at Keeneland, so there you go....it appears the decision has been basically made....they are definately thinking BC Mile first, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see them pre-enter both races...I think they are counting on Lady of Venice running in the F&M turf, but if Wait a While crushes her again at Keeneland in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes, then would they still want to run her in the Breeders' Cup?...I wouldn't see why....

[blackthroatedwind]

Yeah, Gorella is running in the Galaxy at Keeneland.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I just learned that they are definately going to run Gorella next in a mile race at Keeneland, so there you go....it appears the decision has been basically made....they are definately thinking BC Mile first, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see them pre-enter both races...I think they are counting on Lady of Venice running in the F&M turf, but if Wait a While crushes her again at Keeneland in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes, then would they still want to run her in the Breeders' Cup?...I wouldn't see why....

And while yer disclosing this information perhaps you should peruse some earlier posts....Wait a While is running in the Yellow Ribbon in California. It will give her five weeks to the BC as opposed to three if she runs in the QE II at Keeneland.

[Danzig]

also, keep in mind that historically, the fave in the distaff wins that race most often.

and ouija already beat alexandrova, didn't she?

Originally Posted by Danzig188

and ouija already beat alexandrova, didn't she?

nope.....never faced each other....

[blackthroatedwind]

Gorella is actually a Euro.

The only reason I'm sorry she's not running in the F&M Turf, Joel, is so that I can see you eat crow:-)

But, since Patrick is a friend, I am much happier to see her running in the race she has the best chance to win.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

also, keep in mind that historically, the fave in the distaff wins that race most often.

and ouija already beat alexandrova, didn't she?

Cunningham already answered this,
but I just would like to add that Alexandrova got her first test againt older females in the Yorkshire Oaks(race for 3 and 4YOs).
she won easily and completed the Oaks triple by winning the Epsom, Irish, and Yorkshire Oaks races.
awesome late close and I really think she is better right now than The Board.
besides,
I just do not see how OB can be at her best on Nov 4 after clashing with horses like Shirrocco, Electrocutionist, and Dylan Thomas all year.
thats a tough campaign for any horse, especially a mare.

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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by repent

Cunningham already answered this,
but I just would like to add that Alexandrova got her first test againt older females in the Yorkshire Oaks(race for 3 and 4YOs).
she won easily and completed the Oaks triple by winning the Epsom, Irish, and Yorkshire Oaks races.
awesome late close and I really think she is better right now than The Board.
besides,
I just do not see how OB can be at her best on Nov 4 after clashing with horses like Shirrocco, Electrocutionist, and Dylan Thomas all year.
thats a tough campaign for any horse, especially a mare.

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yeah, but Islington did just fine after a similar campaign in 2003.

I do agree though that alexandrova is a heck of a filly. Probably the best ive seen at this stage in some time.

My heart and money will be with Ouija Board though. The lady is nothing but class.

Originally Posted by repent

Cunningham already answered this,
but I just would like to add that Alexandrova got her first test againt older females in the Yorkshire Oaks(race for 3 and 4YOs).
she won easily and completed the Oaks triple by winning the Epsom, Irish, and Yorkshire Oaks races.
awesome late close and I really think she is better right now than The Board.
besides,
I just do not see how OB can be at her best on Nov 4 after clashing with horses like Shirrocco, Electrocutionist, and Dylan Thomas all year.
thats a tough campaign for any horse, especially a mare.

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I agree with this logic...nice post...

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And while yer disclosing this information perhaps you should peruse some earlier posts....Wait a While is running in the Yellow Ribbon in California. It will give her five weeks to the BC as opposed to three if she runs in the QE II at Keeneland.

Actually, I knew that...mistakenly recalled when they originally said QE II...I quit keeping up with horses that don't have a shot at winning Breeders' Cup races and I forgot they opted for California with her...she'll be a no-factor in the F&M Turf....so will Lady of Venice...that is why I think Gorella should run there...she is the only American hope of defeating Ouija Board and Alexandrova...

Like usual on real turf courses (which Churchill Downs has), I don't like America's chances of winning any BC races on the grass if the expected Euros come....Gorella has the best shot in the F&M Turf, but they'll probably elect to hook boys that are faster than her....