Zenyatta

[South Beach Luv]

Beyer's column in the Washington Post today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110502549.html

[Danzig]

i tend to ignore most comments, if not all, from the rider. smith also said giacomo flipped his palate in either the preakness or the belmont. he felt he needed an excuse for why the horse didn't run well. it was also untrue that anything had gone wrong with the horse.

zenyatta would be the first female to win the classic should she somehow manage to cross the line first. it's my opinion that her running style will be more of a hindrance tomorrow than in her past races, and that the field she will be joining is far, far superior to anything she has raced to this point. should she win, she would be deserving of every bit of praise....but i'll be amazed if she pulls it off. i've enjoyed watching her run, but that doesn't mean i think she's some sort of super horse. and the 13 for 13 was certainly aided by her campaign and her competition. i have more respect for a horse such as summer bird, who travelled all over, and took on all comers-even with a loss or two, than i do for a horse that's been treated as a hot house flower with huge spacing between races. i give them credit for taking her into a new realm, i didn't think it would happen.

[3kings]

I will play against Zenyatta for these reasons:

She is an underlay at 5/2
She has never run a race @ 1 1/4 mile
It's a big field and her favorite go way wide and pick them off at the end will be much more difficult.
There is not a ton of pace in the race, hurting a deep closers chances.

That being said, I don't have a great opinion on who will win, I just think there are too many things going against Zenyatta.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I will play against Zenyatta for these reasons:

She is an underlay at 5/2
She has never run a race @ 1 1/4 mile
It's a big field and her favorite go way wide and pick them off at the end will be much more difficult.
There is not a ton of pace in the race, hurting a deep closers chances.

That being said, I don't have a great opinion on who will win, I just think there are too many things going against Zenyatta.

agree on all counts.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv

Beyer's column in the Washington Post today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110502549.html

This is the same guy who declared on a pre-race handicapping show that there was no way in hell that Bayakoa could run fast on the lead (at old Gulfstream) and still beat the Eastern closers like Gorgeous. FYI

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

This is the same guy who declared on a pre-race handicapping show that there was no way in hell that Bayakoa could run fast on the lead (at old Gulfstream) and still beat the Eastern closers like Gorgeous. FYI

Gorgeous was a CA horse. FYI.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

This is the same guy who declared on a pre-race handicapping show that there was no way in hell that Bayakoa could run fast on the lead (at old Gulfstream) and still beat the Eastern closers like Gorgeous. FYI

If you have to go back 20 years to illustrate that the guy could be wrong tomorrow, it's not saying much!

--Dunbar

[tector]

Zenyatta is now likely to be more horribly overbet than even before. So I learned that you must try to beat her or sit out the race. I actually sat out the Ladies Classic today, which preserved my gigantic $3 profit (thanks, She Be Wild). (Actually I had a casino Twin Q alive into the 9th race--it started with the 5th--but could only get one of my horses in the final half).

Damn BC also distracted me from betting the Ack Ack at CD--my 10-1 choice won, naturally.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by tector

Zenyatta is now likely to be more horribly overbet than even before. So I learned that you must try to beat her or sit out the race. I actually sat out the Ladies Classic today, which preserved my gigantic $3 profit (thanks, She Be Wild). (Actually I had a casino Twin Q alive into the 9th race--it started with the 5th--but could only get one of my horses in the final half).

Damn BC also distracted me from betting the Ack Ack at CD--my 10-1 choice won, naturally.

No matter how good Zenyatta is, and she is way better than the 97's beyer has been giving her, you must bet against her in this race, its pure mathematics. She is going to be overbet from what I can see (I was sure wrong on how smart the public is) and her chances of winning are no where near 33% or so.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

This is the same guy who declared on a pre-race handicapping show that there was no way in hell that Bayakoa could run fast on the lead (at old Gulfstream) and still beat the Eastern closers like Gorgeous. FYI

How about giving an opinion before the race instead of criticizing others for something that happened years ago.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

This is the same guy who declared on a pre-race handicapping show that there was no way in hell that Bayakoa could run fast on the lead (at old Gulfstream) and still beat the Eastern closers like Gorgeous. FYI

So Andy Beyer has no creditability because of his opinion of a race 20 years ago?

And what qualifies Gorgeous as an Eastern filly?