Anyone Else Taking A Stand

[ddthetide]

i'm considering only playing the grass races.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i'm considering only playing the grass races.

I was thinking the same thing, ill def be putting more money down on the grass races but boycott was the first thing that came to mind when they announced back to back polycrap. I came to my senses though and figured there is alot of money to be made this day. I cant say that im overly excited or looking forward to the bc as much as I have been in prior years though.
They should rename it European showcase day.

[Bigsmc]

I didn't play last year and do not plan on it this year. I'll stick to tracks that I can turn a profit on and this place is definitely not one of them.

I thought it would bother me last year, but it didn't in the least. I played Churchill and Calder like I normally do and watched and enjoyed the BC races with nothing on the line.

It is not a protest by any means, just money management.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I didn't play last year and do not plan on it this year. I'll stick to tracks that I can turn a profit on and this place is definitely not one of them.

I thought it would bother me last year, but it didn't in the least. I played Churchill and Calder like I normally do and watched and enjoyed the BC races with nothing on the line.

It is not a protest by any means, just money management.

Exactly and well said. I am not protesting but rather just choosing to spend in other ways. Run it where you want and let the spending public decide. I'll have a hard time dealing with The Classic if Gio goes off close to ML odds, but hey its racing.

Gosh what a beautiful backdrop at Santa Anita, really is. If I had the chance and the funds to go I would. But given my money spot today, I can't. In fact I would be prone to go and wager less and just take in the atmosphere, like when I went to Saratoga. I gambled less at Saratoga then I would have at one of my old home tracks because I was so happy just taking in the atmosphere.

[Sightseek]

Being on pro-ride is definitely not steering me away from the excitement of a big day.

I've been fully engrossed in watching replays, reading all of the news and looking over the pps for the past week. Admittingly, I'm an obsessed racing fan but I don't know how anyone who spends a lot of time here can not be going bed tonight with the same feeling you did on Christmas Eve as a kid.

For better or worse I'll be betting both days!

[Ogygian]

This post is like saying I'm not going to watch a football game because it's played on "turf"...times have changed...except it and move on.
In all honesty...who cares what they are running on? For all I care they could be running on gravel...it's the Breeder's Cup.
And also to be honest we could care less, waste of a post.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

This post is like saying I'm not going to watch a football game because it's played on "turf"...times have changed...except it and move on.
In all honesty...who cares what they are running on? For all I care they could be running on gravel...it's the Breeder's Cup.
And also to be honest we could care less, waste of a post.

Well I disagree, because if this was run on a track with dirt I would not feel the same way. But hey each to his / her own. I was just curious as to if anyone else felt the same way is all. I like to have a fighting chance on my wagers, and albeit I have bet other surfaces similar at best to Santa Anita thru the course of time it was not on days like Breeders Cup Weekend.

No big deal either way as all I am asking / posting is if anyone else feels the same way. Far from a waste of a post but rather folks who help fuel the sport expressing opinions

[Ogygian]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Well I disagree, because if this was run on a track with dirt I would not feel the same way. But hey each to his / her own. I was just curious as to if anyone else felt the same way is all. I like to have a fighting chance on my wagers, and albeit I have bet other surfaces similar at best to Santa Anita thru the course of time it was not on days like Breeders Cup Weekend.

No big deal either way as all I am asking / posting is if anyone else feels the same way. Far from a waste of a post but rather folks who help fuel the sport expressing opinions

If you love horse racing...and it sounds like you do...regardless of where they are running and what they are running on...How can you say " I will sit back and watch a little". This is the biggest day of the year and you are going to watch a little???? Who cares about wagering....I could care less...I enjoy racing...if I win, I win...if I lose I lose.Did you boycott Monmouth due to the slop??? Did that "ruin" the day of racing??? What happens if they change all the surfaces to synthetic (which they wont)...are you going to boycott all racing? And I believe they went to synthetic for safety purposes didnt they.
Nearly all major sports play on different types of surfaces don't they???

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

If you love horse racing...and it sounds like you do...regardless of where they are running and what they are running on...How can you say " I will sit back and watch a little". This is the biggest day of the year and you are going to watch a little???? Who cares about wagering....I could care less...I enjoy racing...if I win, I win...if I lose I lose.Did you boycott Monmouth due to the slop??? Did that "ruin" the day of racing??? What happens if they change all the surfaces to synthetic (which they wont)...are you going to boycott all racing? And I believe they went to synthetic for safety purposes didnt they.
Nearly all major sports play on different types of surfaces don't they???

I don't think Breeders Cup Day on that surface is the biggest day of the year for this industry. I was more excited about Travers Day by a mile. You know, maybe I am showing a side of me that comes out thru the words and choices I use as I find myself leaning towards traditional people, places and things versus what is happening now in ALL aspects of my life.

I think I am speaking out of both sides of my mouth, so let me say this. I'll watch and wager on the big days so to speak at tracks that use dirt more then I will this poly surface for the time being for various reasons. I am drawn to tradition long before I am drawn to today.

[Ogygian]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I don't think Breeders Cup Day on that surface is the biggest day of the year for this industry. I was more excited about Travers Day by a mile. You know, maybe I am showing a side of me that comes out thru the words and choices I use as I find myself leaning towards traditional people, places and things versus what is happening now in ALL aspects of my life.

I think I am speaking out of both sides of my mouth, so let me say this. I'll watch and wager on the big days so to speak at tracks that use dirt more then I will this poly surface for the time being for various reasons. I am drawn to tradition long before I am drawn to today.

Hey...I am all for tradition, but I also understand that times change. For the record...it's not like all dirt tracks are the same...you can't compare Calder and Belmont...both dirt, but very different...same goes for Turf...Kentucky Downs to Saratoga...synthetics is just another element.
Is the SuperBowl the biggest day for football no matter where it is played?? Is the World Series the biggest event in baseball no matter where it is played??? The answer is Yes...

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I didn't play last year and do not plan on it this year. I'll stick to tracks that I can turn a profit on and this place is definitely not one of them.

I thought it would bother me last year, but it didn't in the least. I played Churchill and Calder like I normally do and watched and enjoyed the BC races with nothing on the line.

It is not a protest by any means, just money management.

i rarely play the cal. tracks and have not done well with keeneland since the switch. i thought i could make more sense of the grass races.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I didn't play last year and do not plan on it this year. I'll stick to tracks that I can turn a profit on and this place is definitely not one of them.

I thought it would bother me last year, but it didn't in the least. I played Churchill and Calder like I normally do and watched and enjoyed the BC races with nothing on the line.

It is not a protest by any means, just money management.

i agree, i bet it, but way less than usual. theres too many races now and i could care less about the 2 yo's. i'm a spot player anyway and bet when i like the value. i think the poly is a joke but theres a few i like this year. last year i bet 50 bucks the whole day, this year i will bet more but they are really ruining this thing. 14 races, small fields because they can cross enter on poly (its just like grass) then they call it "championships", which is another joke all together because in some divisions the best dirt horses are not even going there. only in horse racing can they take a good thing and screw it up. this could be the waning years of the breeders cup if things don't change.

[tector]

[quote=johnny pinwheel] only in horse racing can they take a good thing and screw it up. /QUOTE]

Nah, horse racing may be best at it, but others can try, too. Look at the rule changes and "evolving" rules in the NFL. As just one example, pretty soon they'll just tie flags on the quarterbacks and be done with tacking and hitting them altogether.

Then again, I could be wrong--after all, how will they tie a flag on Tom Brady's skirt?

[johnny pinwheel]

[quote=tector]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

only in horse racing can they take a good thing and screw it up. /QUOTE]

Nah, horse racing may be best at it, but others can try, too. Look at the rule changes and "evolving" rules in the NFL. As just one example, pretty soon they'll just tie flags on the quarterbacks and be done with tacking and hitting them altogether.

Then again, I could be wrong--after all, how will they tie a flag on Tom Brady's skirt?

point well taken. some of the calls in the offensive backfield have been terrible. blocks are called tripping and if you sneeze on the QB, its a flag.

[Antitrust32]

I'm not going to bet on it but just because I havent been following racing as closely as other years.. never really bet poly more than a couple times with limited success.. I think if it was on the dirt and Rachel was running I'd be more excited and may go to obs. I just dont feel like dropping 50 bucks when the odds are very against me to win. Total crapshoot and I've never even heard of 3/4 of the horses running. I will def. watch though as thats always a good time barring horses breaking down.

Not feeling any of the usual excitement at all for this year. Its a bummer that they had to go to poly two years ago and some of the top horses in the world wont be running. Nothing like the triple crown where I'm waiting, excited all spring for first saturday and the next 5 weeks.