Let's go Yankees

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

One of you stats nerds look up how much in player salaries have been doled out by the Yankees since their last world series win a few years back.


Bet it was worth it!

Over $2 billion

no joke

[Gander]

Congrats Yankee fans!

[Antitrust32]

congrats a little bit gales and math. I still think you have poor opinions on baseball though gales. LOL though you were right about Pedro last night.

on to next year. hard enought to win two straight pennants but losing the series its still rough. I really boils down to Hamels blowing a 3 run lead and Lidge not giving us a chance at winning game 4 or this series would have had a whole new look. But those guys were also the two biggest question marks going into it and it turned out they really do SUCK this year.

I'll give the yanks credit too though.. Matsui is Pedro's Daddy for sure.. and Jeter, Damon and A-roid all had terrific WS's along with Rivera.

Just didnt think the Yanks starters did that awesome to shut our bats down so its disappointing we couldnt really score. Howard slumping at the worst time sure didnt help. Its like Utley/Ruiz/Werth are the only guys who showed up.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

congrats a little bit gales and math. I still think you have poor opinions on baseball though gales. LOL though you were right about Pedro last night.

on to next year. hard enought to win two straight pennants but losing the series its still rough. I really boils down to Hamels blowing a 3 run lead and Lidge not giving us a chance at winning game 4 or this series would have had a whole new look. But those guys were also the two biggest question marks going into it and it turned out they really do SUCK this year.

I'll give the yanks credit too though.. Matsui is Pedro's Daddy for sure.. and Jeter, Damon and A-roid all had terrific WS's along with Rivera.

Just didnt think the Yanks starters did that awesome to shut our bats down so its disappointing we couldnt really score. Howard slumping at the worst time sure didnt help. Its like Utley/Ruiz/Werth are the only guys who showed up.

my opinion on baseball proved correct

i said pitching would determine this series and it did

i thought the yankees had better pitchers and they do



pettite had a chance to implode in game 3 , but, he found a way through early on in the game to give his team a chance , hamels with a 3 run lead imploded - i thought that was the turning point of the seires -you can talk about lidge blowing game 4 all you want but even if you had won that game and went to NY ahead 3-2 who was going to get the ball in game 7 that you had any faith in?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

my opinion on baseball proved correct

i said pitching would determine this series and it did

i thought the yankees had better pitchers and they do



pettite had a chance to implode in game 3 , but, he found a way through early on in the game to give his team a chance , hamels with a 3 run lead imploded - i thought that was the turning point of the seires -you can talk about lidge blowing game 4 all you want but even if you had won that game and went to NY ahead 3-2 who was going to get the ball in game 7 that you had any faith in?

hamels blowing a three run lead was the turning point and lidge's meltdown was the final nail in the coffin. We had no chance winning 3 games in a row when Hamels would have to start game 7.

I really wasnt super impressed by your half billion dollar starting pitchers, though they didnt blow up (except burnett game 5), they were very hittable including CC (except burnett game 2). Howard going cold and swinging at every pitch 10 inches outside the plate slider that was thrown really didnt help.

Rivera was your pitching advantage over Lidge, as well as ANY of your pitchers over Hamels, but that is all IMO.

Starting Happ game 3 instead of Hamels could have been a difference maker.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

hamels blowing a three run lead was the turning point and lidge's meltdown was the final nail in the coffin. We had no chance winning 3 games in a row when Hamels would have to start game 7.

I really wasnt super impressed by your half billion dollar starting pitchers, though they didnt blow up (except burnett game 5), they were very hittable including CC (except burnett game 2). Howard going cold and swinging at every pitch 10 inches outside the plate slider that was thrown really didnt help.

Rivera was your pitching advantage over Lidge, as well as ANY of your pitchers over Hamels, but that is all IMO.

Starting Happ game 3 instead of Hamels could have been a difference maker.

It really came down to Ryan Howard. There is no way possible the Phillies beat the Yankees without major production from him. They didnt get it, in fact they didnt get squat from him. They lose. Its really that simple. Doesnt matter who pitches for the Phillies. Lee could have pitched 3 gems and they would have still lost without Ryan Howard being Ryan Howard.

He didnt need to be as crazy good as he was in against the Dodgers but he needed to produce. He sucked and they lost to a Yankee team who didnt play anywhere close to their true ability.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Gander

It really came down to Ryan Howard. There is no way possible the Phillies beat the Yankees without major production from him. They didnt get it, in fact they didnt get squat from him. They lose. Its really that simple. Doesnt matter who pitches for the Phillies. Lee could have pitched 3 gems and they would have still lost without Ryan Howard being Ryan Howard.

He didnt need to be as crazy good as he was in against the Dodgers but he needed to produce. He sucked and they lost to a Yankee team who didnt play anywhere close to their true ability.

agreed - tex stunk and a-rod was not as good as the 1st 2 rdns

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gander

It really came down to Ryan Howard. There is no way possible the Phillies beat the Yankees without major production from him. They didnt get it, in fact they didnt get squat from him. They lose. Its really that simple. Doesnt matter who pitches for the Phillies. Lee could have pitched 3 gems and they would have still lost without Ryan Howard being Ryan Howard.

He didnt need to be as crazy good as he was in against the Dodgers but he needed to produce. He sucked and they lost to a Yankee team who didnt play anywhere close to their true ability.

Ryan Howard played for the most part like Ryan Howard. The Yankees buried him with lefties and he simply doesnt hit lefties. He overwhelmingly faced lefties during the series, he did not hit them.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

hamels blowing a three run lead was the turning point and lidge's meltdown was the final nail in the coffin. We had no chance winning 3 games in a row when Hamels would have to start game 7.

I really wasnt super impressed by your half billion dollar starting pitchers, though they didnt blow up (except burnett game 5), they were very hittable including CC (except burnett game 2). Howard going cold and swinging at every pitch 10 inches outside the plate slider that was thrown really didnt help.

Rivera was your pitching advantage over Lidge, as well as ANY of your pitchers over Hamels, but that is all IMO.

Starting Happ game 3 instead of Hamels could have been a difference maker.

pedro was outpitched in both starts by different pitchers

cc and blanton was a wash

lee outpitched cc and burnett in his 2 starts

as bad as howard was , our mvp for the regualar season did not show up either - mark tex - so if you cry about howard not hitting we can cry about tex not hitting