Another glorious win for the homo-phobes?

[brianwspencer]

And Obama didn't do a goddamn thing to help in a state where he's relatively popular either, which is especially rich.

They even played the "we're not familiar enough with the measure to comment" card...it's pretty self-explanatory.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And Obama didn't do a goddamn thing to help in a state where he's relatively popular either, which is especially rich.

They even played the "we're not familiar enough with the measure to comment" card...it's pretty self-explanatory.

Would you expect anything else given the extreme conservatism with which this White House has handled DADT?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Would you expect anything else given the way this White House has handled DADT?

Nope. Not at all.

Just voicing discontent with the fact that nobody will grow a pair and stand up and say THIS IS WRONG. Not even the President who campaigned heavily on the "fierce urgency of now" and being a strong advocate for the community.

Fierce urgency of you're on your own.

Wait til people close the purse strings when they get fed up (and I mean literally, my people all carry purses). There's a lot of money out there to be had, and a lot of passionate people willing to do anything for someone and something they believe in.

Not overall, but today? F*ck him.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Nope. Not at all.

Just voicing discontent with the fact that nobody will grow a pair and stand up and say THIS IS WRONG. Not even the President who campaigned heavily on the "fierce urgency of now" and being a strong advocate for the community.

Fierce urgency of you're on your own.

Wait til people close the purse strings when they get fed up (and I mean literally, my people all carry purses). There's a lot of money out there to be had, and a lot of passionate people willing to do anything for someone and something they believe in.

Not overall, but today? F*ck him.

The ridiculous thing about the way the administration has handled DADT is that it isn't like they are just too cowardly to go against public opinion (at least on this issue) because poll after poll suggests that the majority of Americans favor allowing people who are homosexual to serve in the military.
I don't know what their exact reason might be, but whatever it is, it is ridiculous, not to mention a complete reversal on a campaign pledge.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The ridiculous thing about the way the administration has handled DADT is that it isn't like they are just too cowardly to go against public opinion (at least on this issue) because poll after poll suggests that the majority of Americans favor allowing people who are homosexual to serve in the military.
I don't know what their exact reason might be, but whatever it is, it is ridiculous, not to mention a complete reversal on a campaign pledge.

obama said they didn't have time to fool with DADT, as the economy was on the front burner. funny, that all went out the window when he leaped on health care with both feet! there's more to that story as to why he won't fool with it-but the excuse of having other things to fool with is b.s. imo.

[GenuineRisk]

This is a very good example of why rule by simple majority is not infallible. If civll rights for blacks had been left to the American voters, we'd have seen segregation laws last into the 1980's. Hell, they'd still have them in Georgia.

[Danzig]

it's not supposed to be majority rule. the will of the people isn't supposed to supercede the constitution. if the majority voted to get rid of the press, do you really think that would happen? so why should civil rights only be permitted to some? it's simple-they're not supposed to be. all are created equal is supposed to mean just that.