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Old 11-03-2009, 08:16 PM
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Well Kev , deeds is out and McDonnell is in


republicans sweep in VA

is NJ next?
What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
corzine in trouble in NJ bob not a good night for the dems not matter how you want to paint the picture
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
AKA the head of the Florida wing of the Bush Crime Family!
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:21 PM
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AKA the head of the Florida wing of the Bush Crime Family!

funny wasn't it obama main guy from Ill that sent the dead fish to someone on the hill?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:16 PM
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funny wasn't it obama main guy from Ill that sent the dead fish to someone on the hill?
wannabe! Too many movies in between ballet classes and the Arby's job.

But grew up w/the Winnetka, IL crew.

OK that was a joke!
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:09 PM
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Nobody is surprised VA went Republican (northern VA was the turn) - they have always gone to the opposite party in the first election after Presidential. That was expected.

In New Jersey Governor, Corzine was certainly in deep trouble, so a GOP win there wasn't that big a surprise, either.

In exit polls in both states, the majority of voters said Obama had nothing to do with their vote.

The interesting election is the neck and neck NY House election between "I love Glenn Beck He's My Mentor" ultra-conservative, outside-financed, Sarah Palin endorsed Doug Hoffman, currently having 45% of the vote, and Democrat Bill Owens, currently with 49% of the vote. This is the race where the GOP candidate, the moderate Republican endorsed by Newt Gingrich, Scozzatava (sp?), resigned the race over the weekend at the last minute, and threw her support behind Owens.

If Hoffman loses, that shows the GOP that they can't continue to let the whackjobs control the party; and this is the race that is most predictive to 2010, IMO.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:31 AM
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CNN projects Democrat Bill Owens wins in New York's 23rd congressional district, defeating Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That was a safe seat for a moderate Republican, but they tried to force their more Conservative views on people of this district. Gales, how many Congressman from your State of New York are Republicans? Down to 2 now?

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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
Obama is a "one and done ", and off to building homes with Jimmy Carter.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:49 AM
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Obama is a "one and done ", and off to building homes with Jimmy Carter.
Hopefully DT is around in 2012 because the economy will be back and it should be an interesting election. I'm banking on the Republicans running Romney and I think Obama can defeat him.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:27 AM
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Hopefully DT is around in 2012 because the economy will be back and it should be an interesting election. I'm banking on the Republicans running Romney and I think Obama can defeat him.
There is simply no way this country is gunna have a President that believes those LDS Fairy Tales. If he's so smart, you'd think he would of realized that by now. Ego gets in the way of common sense.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:47 AM
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12

How can you say O'Dumbass easily in 12 when he campaigned for the Democratic candidate who lost? Could this be a sign of change? Maybe voters are trying to send a message to the Democratic party. We will have to tune in and wait down the road.
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So let me get this straight:

2 Democratic defeats in STATE elections= huge failure for Obama
2 Democratic victories in FEDERAL elections= don't mean anything

Just making sure I am on the same page with wingnut logic.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:04 PM
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So let me get this straight:

2 Democratic defeats in STATE elections= huge failure for Obama
2 Democratic victories in FEDERAL elections= don't mean anything

Just making sure I am on the same page with wingnut logic.
Pretty much Michael Steele hip-hip-hooraying is a bit ... too happy a response, IMO.

Look, in 2010, it is the common and usual thing for the party not just elected President at the last election to regain about 40 seats at the midterms. That's a good thing - keeps those "Executive" and "Legislative" branches balanced. The key will be to see if 2010 yields an over or under average for the GOP.
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How can you say O'Dumbass easily in 12 when he campaigned for the Democratic candidate who lost? Could this be a sign of change? Maybe voters are trying to send a message to the Democratic party. We will have to tune in and wait down the road.
Because the people who voted for Obama didn't turn out to vote Dem or for anyone else yesterday. And Corzine's problems in NJ, and NJ's problems in general were too great for even him to overcome.

I'd be more concerned with who your party is going to run for President 3 years from now and what platform, besides I hate Democrats, they are going to run on. If the economy turns around, and I think it will, the only really tangible issue you will have is the deficit. Now the right is going to roll out all their religious right social issues and trying to tell everyone how to run their lives and all of a sudden, the deficit doesn't seem so bad.

You and other right wingers will never vote Democrat anyway and I sure as hell will never vote Repubilcan, so it will be decided, as always, by the middle 10-15%.
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. And Corzine's problems in NJ, and NJ's problems in general were too great for even him to overcome.

I'd be more concerned with who your party is going to run for President 3 years from now and what platform, besides I hate Democrats, they are going to run on. If the economy turns around, and I think it will, the only really tangible issue you will have is the deficit. Now the right is going to roll out all their religious right social issues and trying to tell everyone how to run their lives and all of a sudden, the deficit doesn't seem so bad.

You and other right wingers will never vote Democrat anyway and I sure as hell will never vote Repubilcan, so it will be decided, as always, by the middle 10-15%.

bob there is no guarantee that these people will turn out in '12 , the bloom will be off the rose and he will be seen as just another politician at that point
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:53 PM
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bob there is no guarantee that these people will turn out in '12 , the bloom will be off the rose and he will be seen as just another politician at that point
Trust me...the memories of Dubya will still be fresh and you know that the Dems will be pounding that point 24/7. Before we had to campaign against Reagan and Bush 1..both people I didn't personally care for, but were still very popular figures. You guys pulled Carter, Dukakis and Mondale up every chance you got back then and it worked. You can be sure we will scare the hell out of the Independants by bringing up Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc every chance we can. Your only hope I think is to find a non-traditional Republucan candidate that attracts Independants but doesn't push away the Religious Right. And my money is that the Republicans won't find that guy, or girl.
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Trust me...the memories of Dubya will still be fresh and you know that the Dems will be pounding that point 24/7. Before we had to campaign against Reagan and Bush 1..both people I didn't personally care for, but were still very popular figures. You guys pulled Carter, Dukakis and Mondale up every chance you got back then and it worked. You can be sure we will scare the hell out of the Independants by bringing up Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc every chance we can. Your only hope I think is to find a non-traditional Republucan candidate that attracts Independants but doesn't push away the Religious Right. And my money is that the Republicans won't find that guy, or girl.
I obviously hope you are right Bob, but I fear gales may be correct. Look at all of the things we had going for us this time, and all the energy Obama generated among voters who had never participated before, and yet the popular vote was still relatively close.
Will there be that same energy in three years for re-electing an incumbent?
Will the Republicans nominate a ticket as bad as a crusty old man and a mentally handicapped woman again?
I'm not so sure.

Either way, it is still a long ways away, and as a political junkie, 2010 still interests me far more than 2012 at this point.
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I obviously hope you are right Bob, but I fear gales may be correct. Look at all of the things we had going for us this time, and all the energy Obama generated among voters who had never participated before, and yet the popular vote was still relatively close.
Will there be that same energy in three years for re-electing an incumbent?
Will the Republicans nominate a ticket as bad as a crusty old man and a mentally handicapped woman again?I'm not so sure.

Either way, it is still a long ways away, and as a political junkie, 2010 still interests me far more than 2012 at this point.

I have great faith in their ability to understimate the intelligence of the American citizen and over estimate the appeal of being a right winger.
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Will the Republicans nominate a ticket as bad as a crusty old man and a mentally handicapped woman again?
I'm not so sure.

Either way, it is still a long ways away, and as a political junkie, 2010 still interests me far more than 2012 at this point.
I think the "Conservative Party" is going to split from the GOP, leaving two ineffective parties, unfortunately.

Yes, 2010 will be interesting for politicos
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