Top 5 greatest training achievements in BC history

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

2006 turf-Marty Wolfson takes horse who recently ran in claiming and was about to be retired to win the turf, has to be considered

Had to be the shoes.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Had to be the shoes.

Strictly a good worming.

[RolloTomasi]

Mandella actually won 4 races on the 1993 card. Phone Chatter and Kotashaan in BC, Memo in the Smile, and Region in the Sunday Silence.

Also in 1993, Gilded Time came off a full year layoff, his last start being a win in the Juvenile at GP, and ran a sharp 3rd in the Sprint.

[cmorioles]

I think the best of all has been overlooked. Neil Drysdale getting Prized to win the 89 Turf as a 3yo in his first career turf start was pretty darn impressive.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I think the best of all has been overlooked. Neil Drysdale getting Prized to win the 89 Turf as a 3yo in his first career turf start was pretty darn impressive.

Andre Fabre was 2nd with the 3yo filly Sierra Roberta at 25/1 odds in that race. Andre Fabre was 3rd with 52/1 shot Star Lift.

8/1 shot Prized was bred great for the turf ... and had he not been scared away from the Classic by Easy Goer and Sunday Silence ... Andre Fabre would have ended up with a 25/1 over 52/1 cold exacta in that race.

What Andre Fabre did in the Classic back-to-back with Jolypha and Arcangues is really beyond belief.

3rd with a 3yo filly who might have gone off at 150/1 odds or more if not coupled with a pair of solid older Grade 1 winners. And he takes down the Classic the following year at 133/1 odds. Both horses stayed in America for great trainers like Frankel and Dick Mandella afterwards ... and neither one amounted to much on either surface.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Andre Fabre was 2nd with the 3yo filly Sierra Roberta at 25/1 odds in that race. Andre Fabre was 3rd with 52/1 shot Star Lift.

8/1 shot Prized was bred great for the turf ... and had he not been scared away from the Classic by Easy Goer and Sunday Silence ... Andre Fabre would have ended up with a 25/1 over 52/1 cold exacta in that race.

What Andre Fabre did in the Classic back-to-back with Jolypha and Arcangues is really beyond belief.

3rd with a 3yo filly who might have gone off at 150/1 odds or more if not coupled with a pair of solid older Grade 1 winners. And he takes down the Classic the following year at 133/1 odds. Both horses stayed in America for great trainers like Frankel and Dick Mandella afterwards ... and neither one amounted to much on either surface.

All of which has absolutely nothing to do with Neil Drysdale. Weak field or not, to win that race first time on turf is pretty freaking impressive, especially considering the horse had been running very well on dirt. Clearly, you don't just throw a horse out in the country's top mile and a half turf race and win it without doing some masterful work in the mornings.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

War Chant was 2nd time turf when he won the Mile for Drysdale as a 3yo.

But again, the horse was regally bred for turf. I'm also pretty sure War Chant was a post time favorite. No doubt both were fine training performances ... but they don't have the "WTF" factor that Fabre had with the first two he ran in the Classic.

I think Prized was a much better turf horse than dirt horse after his BC win as well... but that's more in a time period that's in IC's and Rollo Tomasi's wheelhouse and not mine.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Strictly a good worming.

I thought it was a thorough tooth brushing

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Had to be the shoes.

he was wearing tan loafers that day!

[Soaring Softly]

One rather major training accomplishment that often gets forgotten is Neil Drysdale's feat of getting Prized to win the Breeders Cup Turf in his first ever start on the grass........and as a three-year-old to boot!

Pretty stunning stuff!

[MISTERGEE]

echo in here (see above)

[Soaring Softly]

Yep.....sorry about that! Missed the post!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Soaring Softly

One rather major training accomplishment that often gets forgotten is Neil Drysdale's feat of getting Prized to win the Breeders Cup Turf in his first ever start on the grass........and as a three-year-old to boot!

Pretty stunning stuff!

3-year-olds made up 4 of the top 5 spots in that race.

The only older horse that finished in the top 5 that race was the 52/1 of Fabre's that ran 3rd.

By the way ... If Indian Charlie would have bet on Prized .. he would have jumped the fence and went for a swim in the infield or something like that.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

3-year-olds made up 4 of the top 5 spots in that race.

The only older horse that finished in the top 5 that race was the 52/1 of Fabre's that ran 3rd.

By the way ... If Indian Charlie would have bet on Prized .. he would have jumped the fence and went for a swim in the infield or something like that.

I had the trifecta dude.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Wait a minute .... I thought you were the unluckiest bettor of all-time?

You'll have to explain to me how that one wasn't DrugSian type luck.

[Indian Charlie]

Easy enough.

I had my lucky sock with me and was on 'my' Ritalin that day!