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Old 11-01-2009, 07:54 PM
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How many horses have won the BCJ or BCJF off just a debut race?
I believe none. Action This Day and Indian Blessing both had only two starts and that's the fewest any winners have had.

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Old 11-01-2009, 07:55 PM
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I think UBS and Brocco both had two starts as well.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:57 PM
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Interestingly and somewhat obviously enough, the last three Juv Fillies winners at SA won the Oak Leaf.

I have basically no opinion on this year's Juv Fillies as it is by far the race on Friday I'm looking forward to the least. Except that I think Connie and Michael won't win.

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Old 11-01-2009, 08:13 PM
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Interestingly and somewhat obviously enough, the last three Juv Fillies winners at SA won the Oak Leaf.

I have basically no opinion on this year's Juv Fillies as it is by far the race on Friday I'm looking forward to the least. Except that I think Connie and Michael won't win.

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I thought Blind Luck's last two races were strong...
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:23 PM
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I believe none. Action This Day and Indian Blessing both had only two starts and that's the fewest any winners have had.

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One of Indian Blessings was a Grade 1.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:36 PM
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One of Indian Blessings was a Grade 1.
Right.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:57 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/article/108617.html

King Glorious, given the work, would you send Girolamo to the Cigar Mile? It doesn't sound like he's that happy with the surface.....he usually works much better than this. Is it possible perhaps Godolphin wanted to put a stiff work into him because he's inexperienced?
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:00 PM
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King Glorious, given the work, would you send Girolamo to the Cigar Mile? It doesn't sound like he's that happy with the surface.....he usually works much better than this. Is it possible perhaps Godolphin wanted to put a stiff work into him because he's inexperienced?
What is with your fixation with him?

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Old 11-01-2009, 09:55 PM
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What is with your fixation with him?

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I assume you mean Girolamao and not King Glorious? The colt is one of my favorite horses and he's got a lot of questions surrounding him. I respect the opinions of posters on the board and so I ask ?. I hope that's not a problem? I have a few other favorite horses, but I don't need to ask ? about them because they are fairly solid.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:14 AM
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I assume you mean Girolamao and not King Glorious? The colt is one of my favorite horses and he's got a lot of questions surrounding him. I respect the opinions of posters on the board and so I ask ?. I hope that's not a problem? I have a few other favorite horses, but I don't need to ask ? about them because they are fairly solid.
I was hoping the obsession was with me. I was flattered. Oh well. As for the horse, I would still enter him in the Classic. I've never been a big work guy in as far as them being indicaters of how a horse will run and with all of the comments I've heard from trainers about SA's surface, there seems to even less correlation between works and races.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:21 PM
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What is with your fixation with him?

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ap indy. betsy is a fan of his and follows his extended family.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:35 PM
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I just watched Presious Passion's work on TVG The Works and he looked f'n terrible.
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