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Old 10-28-2009, 04:47 PM
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As a third surface I would be fine with them. As a dirt replacement I have MAJOR problems with them, especially with BC dirt races being contested on them.
It isn't like dirt is going anywhere, NY will be dirt forever, Churchill isn't going anywhere, Florida isn't going synthetic.....
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:52 PM
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It isn't like dirt is going anywhere, NY will be dirt forever, Churchill isn't going anywhere, Florida isn't going synthetic.....
The problem is the Breeders Cup are supposed to be the championships of the sport. To conduct the championship races on the dirt on a surface that isn't dirt is completely preposterous.
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:55 PM
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The problem is the Breeders Cup are supposed to be the championships of the sport. To conduct the championship races on the dirt on a surface that isn't dirt is completely preposterous.
So what is going to happen to the synthetic horses next year when it is at Churchill? Then they have something to complain about.
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:57 PM
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So what is going to happen to the synthetic horses next year when it is at Churchill? Then they have something to complain about.

Synthetic horses have a greater advantage running on Turf than Dirt horses have running on Synthetics... so there ya go, they can just run on turf!
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:57 PM
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So what is going to happen to the synthetic horses next year when it is at Churchill? Then they have something to complain about.
No they won't; they'll just run on the turf instead.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:17 PM
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No they won't; they'll just run on the turf instead.
So a horse like Informed Decision would go to the 'turf' instead of the dirt.

Cmon people....
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:19 PM
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So a horse like Informed Decision would go to the 'turf' instead of the dirt.

Cmon people....
She won a G1 at Churchill, why would she have any problem with that surface?
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:20 PM
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Maybe not Informed Decision, but Gio Ponti would most assuredly not be running on the dirt.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:28 PM
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She won a G1 at Churchill, why would she have any problem with that surface?
in the slop...There are a ton of horses that hate the slop. Is slop really considered dirt, because a slop race, like a poly race, are run completely different from a fast dirt race
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:37 PM
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She won a G1 at Churchill, why would she have any problem with that surface?

The group she beat was one of the worst I remember. What happened in the Ballerina? Everyone says Indian Blessing is done, she was no where NEAR HER.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:23 PM
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So a horse like Informed Decision would go to the 'turf' instead of the dirt.

Cmon people....
okay thats it.. you sold me.. I fake breeders cups!


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Old 10-28-2009, 06:36 PM
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Im looking at the nomination PP"s and just a few thoughts so far....

The Juvenile Fillies Turf appears to be loaded.

The Ladies Classic is a JOKE WITHOUT ZENYATTA.


Aidan O'brien looks to have the top contenders in both Juvy Turf races.

I dont know much about Fleeting Spirit, but he was the chalk in the turf sprint last year and appears to be in better form this year. Just watched the replay and he def. broke slow last year as well. I think Gotta Have Her has a huge chance. There is also a first time Mandella that looks decent, cutback and look back to the turf sprints in the PP"S.

The turf looks kinda shitty, I like Spanish Moon.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:00 PM
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Hey, how about haven't annual awards for every surface (JK). Is this what the game has come to? The more confusion among the public the faster they will leave and go onto something else. The industry has to be more uniform otherwise it will continue to lose customers.

Male Sprinter Dirt Champ:
Male Sprinter Synthetic Champ:
Male Sprinter Grass Champ:

Horse of the Year on Dirt:
Horse of the Year on Synthetic:
Horse of the Year on Grass:

Two-Year-Old Male on Dirt:
Two-Year-Old Male: on Synthetic:
Two-Year-Old Male on Grass:


And so on.......
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:03 PM
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Hey, how about haven't annual awards for every surface (JK). Is this what the game has come to? The more confusion among the public the faster they will leave and go onto something else. The industry has to be more uniform otherwise it will continue to lose customers.

Male Sprinter Dirt Champ:
Male Sprinter Synthetic Champ:
Male Sprinter Grass Champ:

Horse of the Year on Dirt:
Horse of the Year on Synthetic:
Horse of the Year on Grass:

Two-Year-Old Male on Dirt:
Two-Year-Old Male: on Synthetic:
Two-Year-Old Male on Grass:


And so on.......
There are probably some horses that are faster on pavement so we better clear a spot in the parking lot for them to race on. We'll need to add swimming as well.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:08 PM
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There are probably some horses that are faster on pavement so we better clear a spot in the parking lot for them to race on. We'll need to add swimming as well.

that would be entertaining for sure! in fact I wish the synthetic craze would have been a pool craze instead!
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