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Old 10-28-2009, 01:23 PM
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When do they have to committ one way or the other on races?

Is there a chance the connections of Zenyatta are looking at how much speed is being entered in the Classic before they make their decision? Maybe they are waiting to the last possible moment to see who's in and who may opt out?

There doesnt seem to me a lot of pace in this year's Classic and I would think Zenyatta would need all the help she can get against these horses. This is a really talented bunch, albeit its being run on her surface in her backyard.

If she goes, she'll probably be 2nd choice to Gio Ponti?
No. She will not be a longer price than Gio Ponti. She'll be the favorite IMO and QR, Summer Bird, and Rip will all be bet before GP.

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Old 10-28-2009, 01:33 PM
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No. She will not be a longer price than Gio Ponti. She'll be the favorite IMO and QR, Summer Bird, and Rip will all be bet before GP.

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Really? I think Gio Ponti is going to take a lot of money. Hes already got a win over this surface. QR and Summer Bird are unproven.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:39 PM
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Really? I think Gio Ponti is going to take a lot of money. Hes already got a win over this surface. QR and Summer Bird are unproven.
You're assuming the public is even remotely in tune with that distinction.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:46 PM
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You're assuming the public is even remotely in tune with that distinction.
especially on BC w/e....
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:05 PM
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Can anybody explain to me why the turf sprint is before the sprint?

Does the BC want to lose money on the P6 again?
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:16 PM
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Can anybody explain to me why the turf sprint is before the sprint?

Does the BC want to lose money on the P6 again?
Isn't always been Sprint/Turf/Classic in that order?

Before the 2 day the distaff was somewhere in there also I think.....
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:18 PM
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Isn't always been Sprint/Turf/Classic in that order?

Before the 2 day the distaff was somewhere in there also I think.....
they reserve the right to mix it up to provide the best betting sequence.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:40 PM
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When do they post the list of who gets in first for the oversubscribed races? And why do they list preference if they can still get accepted in both fields even if they are oversubscribed? What is the point of listing a preference?
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:43 PM
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When do they post the list of who gets in first for the oversubscribed races? And why do they list preference if they can still get accepted in both fields even if they are oversubscribed? What is the point of listing a preference?
It is on that link I posted earlier in this thread




(I actually put the exclusions into that post... SB)
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:48 PM
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Poor Mine That Bird tried to run extra fast this week to get folks to pay attention to him and still, pfft! Ok well maybe it was b/c he saw another horse way up ahead and got a little competitive. Still...

Who brings up the rear in the Classic? MTB or Zenyatta?
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:06 PM
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Poor Mine That Bird tried to run extra fast this week to get folks to pay attention to him and still, pfft! Ok well maybe it was b/c he saw another horse way up ahead and got a little competitive. Still...

Who brings up the rear in the Classic? MTB or Zenyatta?
I think Zenyatta is the most likely winner of the classic, followed by Colonel John....I realize I am in the minority.
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So when does the preliminary DRF come out?
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:27 PM
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I think Zenyatta is the most likely winner of the classic, followed by Colonel John....I realize I am in the minority.
Did you bet the Breeders Cup last year?

Zenyatta has a chance to hit the board, only because she runs good over the track, but a horse like Gio Ponti will beat the piss out of her.
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When do they post the list of who gets in first for the oversubscribed races? And why do they list preference if they can still get accepted in both fields even if they are oversubscribed? What is the point of listing a preference?
I put it in the post a couple ahead of yours as well as in the first post in the thread.
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