Obama's job approval

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I think you presume too much to know the mind of the people you duel with....Chuck and I are not the same, just as you and GBBob are not the same. Whether you are tying to or not, I think you are being disingenuous
when you trot out the Party line on pretty much everything. Peoples' concepts and priorities can change in 18mos.....mine sure have in the last 10 months.

I don't care what Chuck thinks, to be honest. I've pointed out Chuck's sudden interest in finances, posting about them at an incredible rate, and he's begun the BDS, Blame Bush retort.

If Chuck said, well yea, finances just really started mattering to me, and wasteful spending just really started mattering to me in the last 10 months, our conversation would have been over.

Pointing out the frequency and topic of Chuck's own posting is not disingenuous in any sense of the word -- it's making an observation, one that seems to continue to strike a nerve with Chuck, such that he seems to see the need to change the subject away from my observation any change he gets by claiming that the reason it happened is because I'm a deranged Bush-hating lefty....which has nothing to do with anything I've said on the topic at all.

And all of the replies are the same -- it'd be like me starting a big commentary on how you and Chuck should stop saying that Obama is mangling the nation's finances because he's a Black Muslim, and Black Muslims can't manage American finances.

I would win that argument....despite the fact that you're not even making it, because I've twisted what you're saying, changed the subject, and created an easy-to-win argument for myself...which is the tactic Chuck has employed in response to me for about six consecutive posts now.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I don't care what Chuck thinks, to be honest. I've pointed out Chuck's sudden interest in finances, posting about them at an incredible rate, and he's begun the BDS, Blame Bush retort.

If Chuck said, well yea, finances just really started mattering to me, and wasteful spending just really started mattering to me in the last 10 months, our conversation would have been over.

Pointing out the frequency and topic of Chuck's own posting is not disingenuous in any sense of the word -- it's making an observation, one that seems to continue to strike a nerve with Chuck, such that he seems to see the need to change the subject away from my observation any change he gets by claiming that the reason it happened is because I'm a deranged Bush-hating lefty....which has nothing to do with anything I've said on the topic at all.

And all of the replies are the same -- it'd be like me starting a big commentary on how you and Chuck should stop saying that Obama is mangling the nation's finances because he's a Black Muslim, and Black Muslims can't manage American finances.

I would win that argument....despite the fact that you're not even making it, because I've twisted what you're saying, changed the subject, and created an easy-to-win argument for myself...which is the tactic Chuck has employed in response to me for about six consecutive posts now.

Brian: I realize that I have no idea how your mind works, so why would you bother to post about an arguement that hasn't taken place yet? Pretty eerie, if you ask me. and btw....Obamas' own party has helped him mangle the nations' finances for quite awhile now.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Brian: I realize that I have no idea how your mind works, so why would you bother to post about an arguement that hasn't taken place yet? Pretty eerie, if you ask me. and btw....Obamas' own party has helped him mangle the nations' finances for quite awhile now.

The point was it being an example of how to create a straw man where I could completely frame an argument you were making into an easily winnable argument for me, despite the fact that it's not actually what you're even saying.

YOU: Why is Obama ruining the nation's finances?!

ME: WHY DO YOU HATE HIM CUZ HE'S BLACK?!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The point was it being an example of how to create a straw man where I could completely frame an argument you were making into an easily winnable argument for me, despite the fact that it's not actually what you're even saying.

YOU: Why is Obama ruining the nation's finances?!

ME: WHY DO YOU HATE HIM CUZ HE'S BLACK?!

I think that way of communicating is disingenuous at the least.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I think that way of communicating is disingenuous at the least.

Of course it is. That's why I'm hoping Chuck will stop and get to what I'm actually saying at some point before the end of Obama's first term.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Of course it is. That's why I'm hoping Chuck will stop and get to what I'm actually saying at some point before the end of Obama's first term.

What you are saying is BS.

Under your rules of engagement I couldnt critize the Bears for trading for Jay Cutler now because I kept quiet when the trade first happened.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I don't care what Chuck thinks, to be honest. I've pointed out Chuck's sudden interest in finances, posting about them at an incredible rate, and he's begun the BDS, Blame Bush retort.

If Chuck said, well yea, finances just really started mattering to me, and wasteful spending just really started mattering to me in the last 10 months, our conversation would have been over.

Pointing out the frequency and topic of Chuck's own posting is not disingenuous in any sense of the word -- it's making an observation, one that seems to continue to strike a nerve with Chuck, such that he seems to see the need to change the subject away from my observation any change he gets by claiming that the reason it happened is because I'm a deranged Bush-hating lefty....which has nothing to do with anything I've said on the topic at all.

And all of the replies are the same -- it'd be like me starting a big commentary on how you and Chuck should stop saying that Obama is mangling the nation's finances because he's a Black Muslim, and Black Muslims can't manage American finances.

I would win that argument....despite the fact that you're not even making it, because I've twisted what you're saying, changed the subject, and created an easy-to-win argument for myself...which is the tactic Chuck has employed in response to me for about six consecutive posts now.

My sudden interest in finance. LOL

You gleaned an awful lot of information and theories on one simple sentence. The fact is by mentioning the "previous 8 years" you are in effect using a cousin to the Blame Bush theory. Get off the high horse and realize that you were the one who changed the subject.