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Old 10-27-2009, 10:13 AM
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While your theory may work in general, I think it has no bearing on any conversation involving Jonathan Sheppard, whose training style is as stamina-oriented as anyone's.
Yeah he's the exception, he's a Brit so he's got that type of mentality.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:16 AM
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Yeah he's the exception, he's a Brit so he's got that type of mentality.
And Cloudy is a big, lumbering, horse (and to be honest, kind of ugly up close too, if you ask me) who's always seemed better-suited to marathon distances and sweeping courses, which seems to explain his success at Woodbine and Kentucky Downs.

Based on the way he runs and the way he moves, it seems to me that while there are some concerns (short rest, Pro-Ride), the distance being within his scope won't be one of them.

Plus, he couldn't have looked ANY more sensational bouncing his way back to the winner's circle last week after the Sycamore. Like having just run that marathon race was nothing at all to him...
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:35 AM
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And Cloudy is a big, lumbering, horse (and to be honest, kind of ugly up close too, if you ask me) who's always seemed better-suited to marathon distances and sweeping courses, which seems to explain his success at Woodbine and Kentucky Downs.

Based on the way he runs and the way he moves, it seems to me that while there are some concerns (short rest, Pro-Ride), the distance being within his scope won't be one of them.

Plus, he couldn't have looked ANY more sensational bouncing his way back to the winner's circle last week after the Sycamore. Like having just run that marathon race was nothing at all to him...
I like the looks on paper atleast of Father Time, he's going to be overlooked due to Godolphin's Mastery but he has the look of a live Euro (perhaps 1st lasix) in this race. Not a huge fan of Jamie Spencer though if he is indeed the Jock but he's definitely possible.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:40 AM
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I like the looks on paper atleast of Father Time, he's going to be overlooked due to Godolphin's Mastery but he has the look of a live Euro (perhaps 1st lasix) in this race. Not a huge fan of Jamie Spencer though if he is indeed the Jock but he's definitely possible.
Yea, most people named Spencer are notorious for screwing up things when the big-time comes around.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:18 AM
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Two things stood out to me.

Summer Bird also being entered in the Turf.
Girolamo's first preference being the Classic.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:38 AM
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Two things stood out to me.

Summer Bird also being entered in the Turf.
Girolamo's first preference being the Classic.
Ice said a month ago that Summer Bird would be cross-entered in the Turf.

Putting Girolamo in the Classic seems a tad 'eager', no? But hell, they already have 2 in the Dirt Mile...
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Ice said a month ago that Summer Bird would be cross-entered in the Turf.

Putting Girolamo in the Classic seems a tad 'eager', no? But hell, they already have 2 in the Dirt Mile...
Girolamo is going to win now to spite you.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:49 AM
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Ice said a month ago that Summer Bird would be cross-entered in the Turf.

Putting Girolamo in the Classic seems a tad 'eager', no? But hell, they already have 2 in the Dirt Mile...
When he said that, it was before he had gone to California to train and he said he was keeping his options open because Summer Bird hadn't seemed to really like the synthetic when he trained on it before. Now, he's been there and been working on it and he's still entering the Turf. I could be wrong but that indicates to me that maybe he's not as happy with what he's seeing as he's saying to the media.
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Putting Girolamo in the Classic seems a tad 'eager', no? But hell, they already have 2 in the Dirt Mile...
I think this horse is one of their best bullets and with so much upside and Regal Ransom there to ensure some pace, I say go for it. This Classic field doesn't scream world beaters either.
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