Hall of Fame? Yes or No

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Do you know how easy it is for one to do what you just did? Anyone can can state a totally unsubstantiated charge or accusation against a person. This is so common on here, because it's quick n' easy. You say my logic is mindboggling. That's an effort to distract, and not have to respond to the facts I used. It's a smear. When people disagree with someone, the adult thing to do is simply say you disagree, and respond to the evidence the person used to explain their point of view, or give more evidence in support of your opinion. I don't know why you can't just say you feel your evidence is the more important evidence (instead of attacking someone with a vague accusation.) I gave you a point of view. You stated the facts to support your opinion. I gave the facts supporting my opinion. I respected your opinion, and the facts you supported it with. I don't consider it mindboggling to think a HOF candidate with 108 post season at bats should have more than 5 extra base hits in the post.

It is mindboggling that a person could state that having 5 extra base hits in 108 postseason at bats spread over five years somehow cancels out or trumps what the player in question has accomplished with his other 7948 plate appearances. I suppose A-rod would have been a victim of that same ....unusual....logic.

Especially when that same player has had two game winning or tying singles in the current post season.

Should Ernie Banks be kicked out because he has no post season hits?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is mindboggling that a person could state that having 5 extra base hits in 108 postseason at bats spread over five years somehow cancels out or trumps what the player in question has accomplished with his other 7948 plate appearances. I suppose A-rod would have been a victim of that same ....unusual....logic.

Especially when that same player has had two game winning or tying singles in the current post season.

Should Ernie Banks be kicked out because he has no post season hits?

Thank you. I much prefer you to state "why" you feel someone is this or that. I value the post season stuff more than you do. If someone is a great player, then they need to show it on the biggest stage. That's true in any sport, or in any other type of entertainment. I don't believe post-season performance cancels anything out. I see it as something(a good post season performance) that should be present. Yea, AROD has choked a lot in the post, but he finally performed well there. Why are ya bringing him up, though? He's a D.Q. He juiced. That's a D.Q. I find it mind boggling that you would consider putting juicers in the HOF. Yes, you could possibly say that some players performance before( or after juicing) should be counted. Is that what you're reasoning is, or are you attending the Jeff Skilling School of ethics? To me, it's a bad message to society to allow them in. I don't want them arrested, or punished in any other way than this (HOF D.Q.) As a trainer, you have to compete against cheaters. If you aren't also cheatin', then they've cost you n' your clients money. That's one thing, but voting them into some honorable club is another. Far as Ernie Banks goes, that was before players were able to have the freedom to join clubs in order to get a chance to be in the post. Now, a great player will find their way to the post. People think Tex is great. Well, he isn't in Texas anymore. He's good enough that he was able to go sign with a team that would get to the post.

[PeteMugg]

Rizzuto is in.

I'd say we could pretty much make a case for anyone who's been to a game.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I told ya that #27 is stupid. Please tell me how any future HOFamer can be standing between 1st n' 2nd when a no-out pop fly is being caught in short right field. I don't get that. I now name this future HOFamer Ricky Retardo. I've seen him play plenty. Now you see just how stupid he can be. People in SOCAL (like me n' this 2HOT4TV) have seen this guy play a lot. Notice we aren't so sure we want someone this stupid in the HOF. That's a supermush. So, come on Mr. Retardo, and show you're the great future HOFamer they're talking about. Hit some bombs n' gap jobs.

[Cannon Shell]

You think Steve Garvey should be in. Enough said...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You think Steve Garvey should be in. Enough said...

At least he has a ring, n' went to the World Series what? 5 times? It's not a crime if he isn't in, but it's a crime that a lesser player (Perez) did get in.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You think Steve Garvey should be in. Enough said...

Effort to distract.....Fully noted.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If VLADE hits it out right now(against Rivera,) then I'll change my vote.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You think Steve Garvey should be in. Enough said...

Garvey had that classic batting stance and a perfect swing of the bat, great glove at first bace, but he had "Steve Sax syndrom". He threw like a girl.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Garvey had that classic batting stance and a perfect swing of the bat, great glove at first bace, but he had "Steve Sax syndrom". He threw like a girl.

It was pretty ugly. Wasn't that innacurate. Just mainly ugly.