Obama's job approval

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Well, we had Bozo The Con in there for the past eight years and things didn't turn out too good … so I doubt Bozo The Clown could do much better. lol

When you lose your left sided slant you will look back on those 8 years,,,,,,,,, 7 of them will be the best of your life.

Things did turn out well for the ones that knew how to manage thier money.

[Smooth Operator]

No "left sided slant" here ... I just hate cons.

[pointman]

The con is Obama, though I didn't fall for him personally. Though I did not vote for him, I wanted him to succeed, but clearly the fears that I, and the smart Americans had, are coming true. He conned people into thinking that he was moving to the center, but has remained the liberal he is. He conned people into thinking his lack of experience was not an issue when he has shown himself to be a neophyte on the job. He conned people into thinking that healthcare for all Americans was something that could be done, when in reality it is nothing but an expensive disaster which will hurt all Americans healthcare. He conned people into thinking he would not raise taxes on the middle class when he in reality wants to do nothing other than tax and spend, a particularly stupid move in a recession (actually a depression). His idea of stimulus put the money in the wrong peoples hands and has created great bonuses for the fat cats of failing corporations who don't deserve the bonuses.

I hope for our sake that he does not destroy this country. At least he is consistent, he is a mess on both domestic and foreign policy. Say what you want about Bush, but at least crazy dictators were afraid of Bush, but they certainly have no fear of Obama. Does anyone think it is a coincidence that we have not heard of Khadafy until recently? He will be a one term mistake and I hope this country has come to the realization that Obama/Pelosi need to go and the faster the better. (And while I am at it Barney Frank needs to go too, the author of the housing crisis). That is, if we are still a democracy by the time we get this moron out of the White House. He is giving Jimmy Carter a real run for the worst President this country has ever had.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pointman

The con is Obama, though I didn't fall for him personally. Though I did not vote for him, I wanted him to succeed, but clearly the fears that I, and the smart Americans had, are coming true. He conned people into thinking that he was moving to the center, but has remained the liberal he is. He conned people into thinking his lack of experience was not an issue when he has shown himself to be a neophyte on the job. He conned people into thinking that healthcare for all Americans was something that could be done, when in reality it is nothing but an expensive disaster which will hurt all Americans healthcare. He conned people into thinking he would not raise taxes on the middle class when he in reality wants to do nothing other than tax and spend, a particularly stupid move in a recession (actually a depression). His idea of stimulus put the money in the wrong peoples hands and has created great bonuses for the fat cats of failing corporations who don't deserve the bonuses.

I hope for our sake that he does not destroy this country. At least he is consistent, he is a mess on both domestic and foreign policy. Say what you want about Bush, but at least crazy dictators were afraid of Bush, but they certainly have no fear of Obama. Does anyone think it is a coincidence that we have not heard of Khadafy until recently? He will be a one term mistake and I hope this country has come to the realization that Obama/Pelosi need to go and the faster the better. (And while I am at it Barney Frank needs to go too, the author of the housing crisis). That is, if we are still a democracy by the time we get this moron out of the White House. He is giving Jimmy Carter a real run for the worst President this country has ever had.

The really scary thing is that liberals are complaining he isnt nearly liberal enough!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The really scary thing is that liberals are complaining he isnt nearly liberal enough!

Exactly

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by pointman

The con is Obama, though I didn't fall for him personally. Though I did not vote for him, I wanted him to succeed, but clearly the fears that I, and the smart Americans had, are coming true. He conned people into thinking that he was moving to the center, but has remained the liberal he is. He conned people into thinking his lack of experience was not an issue when he has shown himself to be a neophyte on the job. He conned people into thinking that healthcare for all Americans was something that could be done, when in reality it is nothing but an expensive disaster which will hurt all Americans healthcare. He conned people into thinking he would not raise taxes on the middle class when he in reality wants to do nothing other than tax and spend, a particularly stupid move in a recession (actually a depression). His idea of stimulus put the money in the wrong peoples hands and has created great bonuses for the fat cats of failing corporations who don't deserve the bonuses.

I hope for our sake that he does not destroy this country. At least he is consistent, he is a mess on both domestic and foreign policy. Say what you want about Bush, but at least crazy dictators were afraid of Bush, but they certainly have no fear of Obama. Does anyone think it is a coincidence that we have not heard of Khadafy until recently? He will be a one term mistake and I hope this country has come to the realization that Obama/Pelosi need to go and the faster the better. (And while I am at it Barney Frank needs to go too, the author of the housing crisis). That is, if we are still a democracy by the time we get this moron out of the White House. He is giving Jimmy Carter a real run for the worst President this country has ever had.

Until his health care reform happens, you have no basis for saying it will be an expensive disaster. It's all an assumption you are making

[letswastemoney]

Has free health care destroyed England and Canada? I don't think so. Ask most of them and they will laugh at the way our health insurance system is set up

[Honu]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Has free health care destroyed England and Canada? I don't think so. Ask most of them and they will laugh at the way our health insurance system is set up

Or they migrate to America where they get to keep most of their hard earned money and forego what you might consider a great thing. Im only gathering this from a small pool of a hundred or so people that I know of that come from countries that have "free health care" and they seem pretty happy to be in America without "free health care".

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

Or they migrate to America where they get to keep most of their hard earned money and forego what you might consider a great thing. Im only gathering this from a small pool of a hundred or so people that I know of that come from countries that have "free health care" and they seem pretty happy to be in America without "free health care".

Of course he forgets the inconvenient truth that there are 30 million people in Canada (and their system is mostly poor) as opposed to 300 million in the US. Hell there are probably close to the same amount of illegals in the US as the total number of people in Canada.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Has free health care destroyed England and Canada? I don't think so. Ask most of them and they will laugh at the way our health insurance system is set up

It sure hasnt helped them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Has free health care destroyed England and Canada? I don't think so. Ask most of them and they will laugh at the way our health insurance system is set up

england is facing record deficits; their health care is one of the reasons for that. but they haven't found a way to control the ever-increasing costs of health care. nor can they get rid of it.

[letswastemoney]

I don't think people should die because they can't afford health insurance.

People are denied health insurance all the time because greedy private companies won't insure someone with a pre-existing condition.

So if that someone dies because she couldn't get insurance in time and therefore could not afford quick treatment, that's not our problem right? As long as we keep that extra few dollars? Better someone else than me?

What if that someone with a pre existing condition had emergency surgery one day. Let's say it was for an appendix surgery, but she can't pay it off because the bill was in the $10,000s. All health insurance companies denied her previously and she had a crummy job that didn't pay much. Is that fair?

Are we to care more about saving money than a human life?

Should there even be public schools? Why not just make all of them private while we are at it. Did YOU go to a public school or college?

Should the government control our water supply? Why not make that private as well

Why have public protection? Think of all the money we could save with private police officers nationwide! I'm sure they'll have our best interests at heart if that were to happen.

Why have fire fighters? When cities are burning down because of wild brush fires, think of all the money we could save if private fire fighters did the job instead!

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Has free health care destroyed England and Canada? I don't think so. Ask most of them and they will laugh at the way our health insurance system is set up

Does England and Canada give illegals free health care? What about the people who can work and dont want to get off thier worthless ass'? Do they deserve free hell care? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Until his health care reform happens, you have no basis for saying it will be an expensive disaster. It's all an assumption you are making

Actually it is a laughingly easy assumption to make however the CBO has made the similar statements, at least until Herr Obama muzzled them.