Top 5 best two-surface horses of the last 20 years

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Lets debate this, I am sure people will agree. Candy Ride was BRILLIANT.

In all honesty I dont really remember Formal Gold... I do REMEMBER Candy Ride and Ghostzapper and Candy Ride was much better.

GZ was better IMO, though if we are looking at one race scenario's CR's Pacific Classic would rate with GZ's better performances.

Longevity, singular races, short spanning careers...To each is own to decide. If we are going by singular performances then why not Holy Bull's Woodward Stks win?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

GZ was better IMO, though if we are looking at one race scenario's CR's Pacific Classic would rate with GZ's better performances.

Longevity, singular races, short spanning careers...To each is own to decide. If we are going by singular performances then why not Holy Bull's Woodward Stks win?

I get what your saying and if we asked 10 DTer's we could get a 5-5 split. Its just opinions. I think Candy Ride was better, but Ghostzapper did do more, but dont forget Candy Rides turf races. I think Rock Hard Ten was better and more talented then Saint Liam.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

If we are going by singular performances then why not Holy Bull's Woodward Stks win?

I would rate Holy Bull's Travers as his clear-cut best performance.

I'd also say his Travers win was his most memorable performance and the upset of Dehere in the slop as a 2yo his 2nd most memorable performance.

To me - The Woodward was merely just the race where he conclusively answered the question about his ability to rate.

He already had proved he could massacre excellent older horses when he destroyed a super field in the Met with easily the best Beyer he ever ran. But, he got away with an unpressured almost 23 flat first quarter that day ... while under just 112lbs ... that one really wasn't fair.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would rate Holy Bull's Travers as his clear-cut best performance.

I'd also say his Travers win was his most memorable performance and the upset of Dehere in the slop as a 2yo his 2nd most memorable performance.

To me - The Woodward was merely just the race where he conclusively answered the question about his ability to rate.

He already had proved he could massacre excellent older horses when he destroyed a super field in the Met with easily the best Beyer he ever ran. But, he got away with an unpressured almost 23 flat first quarter that day ... while under just 112lbs ... that one really wasn't fair.

If you look at it from the standpoint as when Seattle Slew dueled with Affirmed only to lose late to Exceller, The Travers did show Holy Bull's intestinal fortitude holding off Concern, I rarely say this or even like admitting to it here, but even with the knowledge that Holy Bull would have almost been impossible to run down around Belmont's 1 turn routes, that race still gives me chills when watching it. Sometimes you can still just sit back and enjoy a performance even when the challenge was less and still recognize you witnessed something special.