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Old 10-21-2009, 12:49 PM
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Back to work! Just 7 people dropped out Sunday, and I think most of those were from forgetting to pick. I am now ranked 231st of the 231 survivors. No one else has as few as my 2 winners from the 13 races so far. I'm oddly proud of that.

The Showvivor webpage is screwed up today. Horses in the first 2 races are each listed twice. If you pick from those races, it lists your pick twice, too. They might decide it's too confusing and end up cancelling for today.

There are 3 scratches in the 3rd and 2 in the 6th, leaving 6 horses in each of those races, as well as in the first 2 races. My early pick is Tribal Face in the 1st.

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Old 10-21-2009, 01:41 PM
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Probably going to go with Barbaric, dropping in class in the 4th race against an extremely weak 7-horse field.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:58 PM
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Probably going to go with Barbaric, dropping in class in the 4th race against an extremely weak 7-horse field.
Are you seeing the same double listings in the first 2 races that I am?

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Old 10-21-2009, 03:51 PM
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Are you seeing the same double listings in the first 2 races that I am?
Yes, I saw the same double listings in the first couple races.

Good job with your pick in the 1st race. I originally had Tribal Face but switched to my pick in the 4th race since the 1st race seemed to have a more competitive field.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:43 PM
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With only 12 racing days left in the meet, the tiebreaker looks definitely like it will come into play. The tiebreaker is the highest show payoff before the Breeders Cup. I will have to keep my eyes open for a potential high show payoff when selecting horses and any bridge jumper opportunities.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:22 AM
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A quick review of the website reveals that at the current pace about 24 players will remain at the end. So, I wouldn't panic just yet. Let the others panic and see where you are the last 3 days, which is relevant for the second tie breaker.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:13 AM
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With only 12 racing days left in the meet, the tiebreaker looks definitely like it will come into play. The tiebreaker is the highest show payoff before the Breeders Cup. I will have to keep my eyes open for a potential high show payoff when selecting horses and any bridge jumper opportunities.
I count 14 days left in the meet. Only the next 11 will count for the first tie-breaker. (But more than one person will have to survive the next 14 betting days before the tie-breaker would go into effect.)


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A quick review of the website reveals that at the current pace about 24 players will remain at the end. So, I wouldn't panic just yet. Let the others panic and see where you are the last 3 days, which is relevant for the second tie breaker.
The average rate of loss per day since the 5th day is 11%. (Before that, large numbers of people probably lost by forgetting to pick.) If we project 11% forward another 14 days, there would still be 38 people left. Of course, that's a highly variable estimate. I don't think one of the top 2 picks has failed to show so far. Something like that would decimate the number of players.

I'll probably start looking for higher payoffs a couple of days before the BC, unless the # of remaining players is like 3 or 4.

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Old 10-21-2009, 02:58 PM
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Probably going to go with Barbaric, dropping in class in the 4th race against an extremely weak 7-horse field.

You have a great chance to move forward if Tribal Face doesn't show. Here is the way people picked today: (from the oaktree.com website)

148 people selected #02 Tribal Face in race 1

72 people selected #06 Ranger Heartley in race 2

64 people selected #04 Cabo Chico in race 1

51 people selected #05 Barbaric in race 4

17 people selected #09 Coatcheck Girl in race 5

6 people selected #01A Spool's Gold in race 3

6 people selected #01A Spool in race 3

3 people selected #02 Obrigado in race 7

3 people selected #04 Pick to Click in race 8

2 people selected #02 Swiss Exploit in race 2

2 people selected #06 Twenty Hawks in race 1

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Old 10-21-2009, 03:13 PM
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Here is the way people picked today: (from the oaktree.com website)

148 people selected #02 Tribal Face in race 1

72 people selected #06 Ranger Heartley in race 2

64 people selected #04 Cabo Chico in race 1

51 people selected #05 Barbaric in race 4

17 people selected #09 Coatcheck Girl in race 5

6 people selected #01A Spool's Gold in race 3

6 people selected #01A Spool in race 3

3 people selected #02 Obrigado in race 7

3 people selected #04 Pick to Click in race 8

2 people selected #02 Swiss Exploit in race 2

2 people selected #06 Twenty Hawks in race 1

Those numbers can't be right because there are only 231 players left. They have almost certainly counted picks from the 1st 2 races twice. (if you halve the numbers for the 1st two races, the total picks is exactly 231.)

How hard is it to do this right, anyway?

Anyway, I made it past today. It looks like 33 people were knocked out in the 1st race.

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Old 10-21-2009, 01:57 PM
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There are 3 scratches in the 3rd and 2 in the 6th, leaving 6 horses in each of those races, as well as in the first 2 races.
2 scratches in the 7th reduce that field to 6 horses, also.

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