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Old 10-16-2009, 11:20 AM
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I really enjoy your various lists. Thank you for posting them. One thing I will note about the above list is all the horses had competent trainers. Their detours from the path to greatness were the results of circumstances more than boneheaded training decisions. That might be a good topic for a future list-budding superhorses ruined by their trainers.
Yeah - a lot of trainers have sabotaged some pretty decent horses.

I think you'll see a lot more of that now than before ... the reason is because of synthetic surfaces. You'll see horses who are much better on one particular surface wasting away on a surface that isn't there preferred surface.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:24 AM
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Neil Howard and competence is a questionable combination.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:34 AM
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Geesh Discreet Cat has a well documented throat problem after returning from Dubai, I would hardly call him a failure. I also look for him to have a hugely successful stud career, he was a very nice horse.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:16 PM
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I think he will be a very good stallion as well.

War Pass is another who I think might rank top 5 on a lot of lists. I wasn't as big a fan of his good races as the huge numbers would suggest ... but he still was an outstanding 2yo - who came apart at 3.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:19 PM
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Two of my all-time favorite races ...

Lil's Lad's Florida Derby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqQepcYSXA


Arazi's BC Juvie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzbPhYfiCNo
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who are this years greatest failures?

Fresian Fire & Stardom Bound... though i guess its not really fair with injuries and all.
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who are this years greatest failures?

Fresian Fire & Stardom Bound... though i guess its not really fair with injuries and all.
Stardom Bound??? I was expecting 10 G1 wins in a row but she only got 5 in a row ---> complete failure. Winning 5 Grade 1's in a row is so overrated
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who was favored in that 95 derby?
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Not even mentioning Arazi had surgery just before his three year old season is a bit disingenuous. He was never the same horse after.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:38 PM
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Not even mentioning Arazi had surgery just before his three year old season is a bit disingenuous. He was never the same horse after.
Badge of Silver fractured a leg after his maiden win - and I didn't mention that. I think he fractured another one later on as well.

Still didn't stop him from running 3rd in the BC Mile off of an 11 month layoff... and yet .. he's a failure.
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I think First Samurai should be on this list.
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