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Old 10-12-2009, 02:56 AM
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He 'rebroke' to come home the last quarter in :25.2?

I'm pretty well on the record regarding Dutrow, but I don't get the theme here..

The winner went :23, :23 (:46), :23.3 (1:09.3), :25.2 (1:35.0). That's :46 for the first half mile and :49 for the second half mile. In his 2nd start maidenbreak at Calder under Andrade, he got an 81 Beyer beating subsequent MSW winners Thank U Philippe (84 BSF) and Hear Ye Hear Ye (94 BSF). Saturday Homeboykris got an 89 Beyer, and the entire field behind him is right in line with the figures.

What's the outrageous shock exactly?
Ah, Steve, you're talking about a 2yo off of a 3 month layoff running a one-turn mile.

The horse paid over $13 for a reason ... and it's not like everyone in the world didn't know the horse would improve significantly beforehand.

Was it as dramatic as Silver Train, This One's For Phil, D' Funnybone ... no. But it was a move-up ... and it only doesn't seem outrageous because you pretty much knew going in that it would happen. It was just a matter if it would be good enough.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:03 AM
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Ah, Steve, you're talking about a 2yo off of a 3 month layoff running a one-turn mile.

The horse paid over $13 for a reason ... and it's not like everyone in the world didn't know the horse would improve significantly beforehand.

Was it as dramatic as Silver Train, This One's For Phil, D' Funnybone ... no. But it was a move-up ... and it only doesn't seem outrageous because you pretty much knew going in that it would happen. It was just a matter if it would be good enough.
'$13.20 for a reason?' Yeah.. It was a 5 horse field once you crossed out the no-hope Overlap... What price should he have been?

Actual (ML):

1. Homeboy Kris 5.60 (6-1)
2. Discreetly Mine 5.90 (7-2)
3. Aspire 4.20 (3-1)
4. Super Saver 8.80 (4-1)
5. Dublin .70 (8-5)
6. Overlap 54.25 (20-1)

In his maidenbreaker, Homeboy Kris went :22.2, :23.2 (:46.0), :13.0 (:59.0), :13.3 (1:12.3) for the 6f. (22.2, 23.2, 26.3 split into quarters.) Pretty identical to how he ran in the Champagne... And being a 2yo off a 90 day layoff, one might conclude that whatever improvement he showed is ordinary development. He had worked 31f since September 2 including a 5f turf drill followed by a full 6f breeze.

I'm not saying there may not be typical Dutrow program performance enhancement to come, but to roll eyes and scoff and snicker at what this horse did Saturday like it was some kind of putover is plain silly.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:10 PM
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does anybody happen to know how much $ homeboy chris was purchased for by dutrow?
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Old 10-12-2009, 03:34 PM
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'$13.20 for a reason?' Yeah.. It was a 5 horse field once you crossed out the no-hope Overlap... What price should he have been?

If he was trained by his Calder trainer - he would easily have been more than 10/1.
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